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South Africa is unraveling – and no one seems to care

South Africa is unraveling – and no one seems to care

South Africa is headed for a major crisis because important plans for the country are beginning to unravel under poor leadership, University of Witwatersrand Vice-Chancellor Adam Habib said on Wednesday.

“The time for diplomatic conversations in our society is over. I am going to be fairly blunt and frank about what I think is the challenge of South Africa in 2015,” he said at the 28th annual labour law conference in Sandton.

“I think we are in a moment of reckoning. I think that the great innovations of 1994, the political pact of 1994, is slowly beginning to unravel. I think the easy stuff – the low hanging fruit – has been plucked.

“We are in a moment where we need nuanced and mature strategic leadership, and frankly I don’t think we have it. We don’t have it in the state, the presidency, the corporate sector and the union movement.

“Unless we get that strategic leadership, we are headed for a national crisis of incredible proportions.”

He said some people believed that things would change in three or four years, when the leadership changed.

“I don’t think we have three or four years. And the problem is, if the malaise continues, it roots itself and I don’t think a turnaround would be easily possible thereafter.”

‘CEOs moan and groan, but don’t do anything’

He said that if he was a betting man, and someone asked him if the country would change, he would say no.

“The CEOs moan and groan, but they don’t do anything. The unions are fighting about who takes the secretary general [position] of Cosatu and there is no movement.

“The president, no one knows what he is doing actually,” he said to laughter from delegates.

Habib looked at different aspects of the “game plan” that were unraveling.

The first was the National Development Plan, which he said was supposed to develop and address inequality.

“All of the measures that it puts into place… are important, but what those will do is get growth going at the base of society, and as growth happens at the base of society, we will have poverty alleviation, but we will not have a reduction in inequality,” he said.

“As these guys at the bottom grow, as they do better, the guys at the top will grow faster. They [the people at the top] own assets, they own properties… so what you have is inequality growing as poverty alleviation happens.”

‘What does BEE do?’

Habib said he spoke to commissioners from the National Planning Commission about this problem, and according to him they said: “Ja, ja, ja… shhhh.”

He also tackled the problem with state-owned enterprises, saying almost all of them were in a state of crisis, mostly because of bad appointments to boards and political interference.

“With our problem in state-owned enterprises, instead of addressing it, the deputy president takes a whole lot of people and goes to China to write a paper on state-owned enterprises,” Habib said.

“Unless you deal with the problem of patronage that is involved in the board appointments… you will never address the crisis.”

In terms of Black Economic Empowerment, Habib said that over the last 10 years, the biggest growth of entrepreneurship in the country was in Stellenbosch.

“It [the growth] has been in the Afrikaans communities, around places like Stellenbosch.”

He said that if entrepreneurs had to be developed, resources, networks, skill-sets and risk were all needed.

“What does BEE do? It gives you resources, it creates a network, we are not sure about skill-sets… and it takes away the risk.

“So what happens is the explosion of entrepreneurship happens in the one place where it is not intended actually. In fact what BEE does is create a group of parasitic bourgeoisie – you know what is worse than a capitalist? A lazy capitalist.”

‘They don’t realise the plan is unraveling’

Habib then turned his attention to Johannesburg and new suburbs that were emerging, which effectively resulted in “privatised cities”.

“You get Waterfall Estate, with their own roads, own sewage system and even power is being re-thought.., basically if you live in Waterfall Estate, you have no interaction with Johannesburg,” he said.

“Why [does this happen]? Because the middle and upper middle classes are saying ‘we can’t get services’.

“But if you speak to the guys in municipal governance, they say ‘we are building a world class city’.”

He said leaders often did not recognise that the plans for the country were “unraveling”.

“If you speak to people at the highest echelons of government, or in the highest echelons in business, they don’t realise the plan is unraveling. They think that everything is on track.”

He said different aspects of society, including unions and corporations, did not want to compromise in fixing the country’s problems.

“The problem with the corporate sector… is their view is that all we need to do is deregulate the entire environment.

“This will explode and increase economic inequality even further, and if we are correct that economic inequality is the precursor to political polarisation, then you will have even more political polarisation, and if that’s the case, you will have more Marikana’s.”

‘Singing from hymn sheets developed in the 1980s and 1990s’

He said thinking about the way South Africa should progress should not come from ideas we have had in the past.

“The left, and the right, government, labour and the corporate sector are singing from hymn sheets developed in the 1980s and 1990s.”

He said that if he was person advising the president, the first thing he would tell him was that the new plan for the country could not begin to be re-thought if the rich did not start the process.

“He [the president] will say I will take as the president… and the Cabinet, no increase for the next three years. Then he asks the leaders and the CEOs of the top 40 companies on the JSE: ‘don’t take an increase for the next three years’.

“Look at Maria Ramos [Barclays Africa Group CEO]… who must be earning anything between 25 and 35 million rand a year. That is about R3m a month.

“Do you think your life changes if you don’t take an increase for two [or three] years?”

He said other executives, including vice-chancellors like him, would also not take increases.

Habib said that if this was done, one could then go to unions and say that for three years, increases would not go above inflation, so that the money could be invested in things like education and healthcare.

“You have to start with the world as it exists, rather than the world you wish existed. Because if you think you are going to start off with the world you wish existed, then you will never create the appropriate strategies to move to the world you want to,” he said.

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  • NicG

    grabs popcorn and watches….. oh wait I live here! anybody willing to sponsor me a one way ticket?

    • Jaco

      Whereto? You already have your ticket. Best enjoy the popcorn. I suggest you get the biggest drink you can find.

  • Mach III

    Absolutely brilliant. We need mass protests.

  • just watching

    Do you think anyone in the cancer cares what Adam thinks ?? they’re all too busy ordering their new R1m company cars, and wondering where the next party will be

    • Kwane

      whilst i agree with your sentiments, i am afraid it gives credence to the view that we have become desensitized to the maladministration that permeates our country, and that we no longer care about its future and its children…as citizens and taxpayers we need to stand up, speak out and challenge the wrongs that pervade our society, the politicians will not do that, neither will big business. It is thus in our hands to do something to stop the rot before it engulfs all of us….”

      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
      Have a good day

    • I didn’t know their taste in cars was that cheap …

    • Kruger

      Be careful not to over generalize. Some of them do care.

  • Annunaki

    James Madison, who was no fool, noted the same problem, but unlike
    Aristotle, he aimed to reduce democracy rather than poverty. He
    believed that the primary goal of government is “to protect the
    minority of the opulent against the majority.” As his colleague John
    Jay was fond of putting it, “The people who own the country ought to
    govern it.”

    – Noam Chomsky

    • Mach III

      “The people who own the country ought to
      govern it.” – Plutocracy.

      • That’s about 0.1% of the population. And you can be they do not pay their fair share of taxes either.

    • clint

      The people who pay tax should govern it, that’s 100% the truth.

  • Carel van Heerden

    I care and I am getting everything in order to leave once it is time…

    You cannot take the benefits of capitalist society and expect CEOs of successful companies not te take their (just or unjust) rewards. What is a problem is that CEOs of unsuccessful businesses seem to get it as well, which makes no sense.

    “As these guys at the bottom grow, as they do better, the guys at the
    top will grow faster. They [the people at the top] own assets, they own
    properties… so what you have is inequality growing as poverty
    alleviation happens.”

    This has to happen. The 1% needs to get richer to alleviate poverty. Statiscally proven. When government is part of the 1% or tries to squeeze their way in there and a large fraction of the rest gains illegally… poverty does not decrease.

    How do you fight against the incompetence of this government? If you have practical ideas let me know…

    • Real Ist

      The only way to get them out is by force I honestly think. Even if they were voted out there is no way in hell they would ‘go quietly’. Either way I predict there will be some interesting times ahead.

      • Hopeful

        Notice how Zuma used the murder of policemen to talk about a gun-free society?
        They are preparing (to eliminate this possibility).

        • Coenraad Loubser

          An armed society is a polite society. Anyone who thinks they can control criminals with laws, is naive. The law is there to regulate and measure, and it will always be two steps behind and prone to abuse.

      • Coenraad Loubser

        Give a bad person enough rope and eventually he’ll hang himself. Sin is its own punishment, sin is karma is the things you do that hold you back, be it out of arrogance, blindness, pride, incompetence or ignorance. If a minority oppresses a majority, in effect they’re only strangling themselves. A society that thrives, benefits all. Google for “Wolves of yellowstone” or “How Wolves change rivers”.

    • Paul

      “This has to happen. The 1% needs to get richer to alleviate poverty. Statiscally proven.”

      What complete and utter rubbish. “Trickle down” does not work anywhere and the wealth gap is widening. Read some economics, then comment.

      • Joe Justice

        Bulltwang. Look at nations where the 1% have left. There is NOTHING. People starve. In order for there to be jobs there have to be bosses. Rich bosses. Show me a single country where your flavor of socialism has worked. Just one. Even in countries like Sweden where unemployment exists only as a choice (people are wealthy enough not to work) the 1% are still the bastions of the economy.

        • Paul

          Why do people who aren’t the 1% argue so vociferously for the 1%? It’s some kind of weird Stockholm syndrome.

          And no, the 1% aren’t the bastions of the economy in Sweden. Low unemployment and high levels of education are the bastions of the economy.

          • Carel van Heerden

            It seems to be difficult to argue with you. I guess I just wasted my time typing that reply above. *sigh*

          • Coenraad Loubser

            Think about the whole money cycle… Where does the money go when spent? It just changes who calls the shots and what shots they call. Show me a better way to measure true klout, and I’ll show you a better solution. Money doesn’t work the way we think it does, because nobody got taught anything about it, ever… Except those who were privileged enough to grow up in families who figured this out the hard way… Until we got the internet, that is.

      • Carel van Heerden

        OK well I’m not an economist. And I don’t particularly like the worldwide standard of exorbitant salaries paid to CEOs, but I understand their necessacity. I’m currently working for a big corporate company. I appreciate that I have a job. I’m sure once all the big mining, chemical, paper, etc. companies leave, people will be glad to get rid of all the people that drives their Ferraris in Joburg… at first. Then they realise that they don’t have a job. Then later government realises that suddenly they have very little money coming in.

        I did not say that the difference between the amount of money of the highest paid people and the lowest paid people will get less. More successful companies means more jobs for people. It also means more money for top executives. I don’t have a solution to improve capitalism or a lot of negative effects that arises from the system.

        • Paul

          The 1% do not need to earn what they do for successful industry and commerce to take place. Separate your issues.

          • Ryan MacDougall

            I disagree, If the top 1% cannot have the strategic vision and direction for their companies, the companies will stagnate and eventually fail. thus causing huge layoffs. Whats sad is countries like South Korea Malaysia and Dubai all had smaller economies than South Africa in 1994. all of these are highly capitalistic countries so its not capitalism and high salaries, maybe its miss management?

      • Coenraad Loubser

        Money is like water. Whether you have a dam or a few cups makes very little difference in the bigger scheme. You can only drink so much.

    • Jaco

      Where are you going? Off the planet? Coz anywhere is gonna end up the same…
      The agenda is being implemented everywhere. There is no escape on this rock.

  • Mach III

    Former Greek finance minister;

    For Varoufakis what was important was that he stepped up to start the
    fight, as he says: “The worst enemy of democracy is citizens who say
    this is a terrible system but I’m not prepared to do anything to change
    it.”

    • Guy Morel

      Exactly. So in the SA context, it’s the voters who burn tires for the lack of service delivery but then vote the same corrupt leaders back into power.

      • Karol Joszkowski

        Its the same as being in a abusive relationship and never leaving. Each time they say things will change but they don’t but they keep hoping

        • Wurnman

          well said…

      • Mach III

        They have what can be described as a mirror effect. When they look at the Government, the Government holds a mirror, that reflects the image of other people (or what ever other millions of excuses) as being the problem. The thing is, and this is the big problem with South African’s collaborating at the moment. Is blaming the majority for voting the ANC in power each election. The thing is, they have been treated the most harshly by the ANC. The inequality has sky rocketed since they came in to power. They live in absolute destitute living conditions. They have horrid education; and the thing with all humans is that our conscious minds are pliable, it can be shaped. They are force fed emotional propaganda till their ears bleed. It is not their fault that they are voting for the ANC. They are brought up to do it, and they believe it to be correct. So yes, it is the major problem, and the only way to heal this wound is with educating on this topic, writing, drawing, arts, conversations with compassion and love. That is the only possibility to gel together all the people of this nation. If you isolate someone’s complete belief abruptly, the first action is to retreat into despair – and that is the problem at the moment.

      • Jo

        The voters are at the peak of madness. Doing the same thing (voting ANC) and expecting a different or better, utopia each time. But instead get more of the same.

    • Absolutely. In a democracy the government doesn’t run everything … better if they don’t. There is a lot that active citizens can fix.

      • Nkanyamba

        Fair enough, but then why are we paying taxes and rates and a myriad of other ‘Tariffs’ and ‘Surcharges’…? And where is the money going? I’m not against doing ‘my bit’, or even more. But I want to see a GENUINE effort from those who receive my money first, towards fixing things, before I roll up my sleeves and do their job for them.

        • Fine, but we can wait another 21 years and things will not get better. More active citizens will be less inclined to vote in the same politicians every time. The ANC rules by patronage. A small fraction do well as politicians, civil servants and tenderpreneurs. Most of the rest of the ANC support base are bought off with social grants and food handouts. Desperate people one social grant away from starvation do not demand change. Change comes from frustrated hope. Look for example at the French revolution: France was not the worst-off country in Europe at the time.

          What I am trying to do is work on things that will give ordinary people hope so they will escape the trap of incompetent education, welfare designed to perpetuate poverty, etc.

          We have to start looking for new approaches because what we have been doing up to now has not worked.

          If you don’t like my ideas, let’s have yours.

    • demos

      Very true! Just remember that the country must first lead to a crisis and Greece hit rock bottom to give rise. South Africa is still spiralling down in this case. I have said it before in another site before a while ago; In order to be united we must face this crisis and only then can you give rise, and have faith in Marxism.

  • UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy

    I completely agree with his sentiments! Very well said!

    I just hope we do actually do something like this.

    • Coenraad Loubser

      Lol!!! You and everyone else!!!! STOP HOPING AND START FLIPPING DOING. The question is… what can you do? Well, nothing could actually be a quite pragmatic approach, because it’s theme of humanity: the more we try, the more we mess things up. And also, people don’t want to be helped, they want to help themselves, contrary to popular belief. So it takes quite a bit to get them to help themselves in a constructive way.

      That said, what you can do is to just in a small way see if you can get people who don’t understand where to even begin, to start seeing the light. Help them earn something that will open doors for them, help them get the chip of entitlement off their shoulder, and see how easy it is to earn things worth earning.

      If you own a company, dedicate as much time on a monthly / weekly / yearly basis, to doing what would otherwise be seen as “charity” or “activist” work, but lead people toward becoming economically productive and active, by example.

      If you work for a company, look for ways that your company can do this, and promote these to the leadership. Research, research, research.

      You realize that more than 100 000 kids go to schools that have no toilets, right? Yes it’s the government’s responsibility, but you can help them to help. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

      • Greg_Shark

        nice coenie…very nice…you may have a future as an orator…but I strongly suggest you get moving and working on your plan to make a difference because as you get older the less you know until eventually you know nothing…. ask any teenager…

        • SuckerPunch

          Start with one weekend a month working for a charity or some such. Donating money is great, but doing something truly constructive needs a hands on approach, and it’s never too late. I’m in my late forties and have made a decision to do this. From seemingly insignificant actions, we can create the momentum for change – for better or for worse. I’m a great believer in our right to justifiably complain, as long as we’re prepared to act too.

          • Mamparra

            But I already work for a charity – it’s called the Help Zuma Retire in Grandeur one! All the taxes we pay both direct and indirect, and now you want us to do what that bunch of thieves in Pretoria and N-clown-dla should be doing! No way, Jose.

  • Hopeful

    I also believe that the time for diplomatic talk is over. White South Africans need to start really talking to black South Africans and talk STRAIGHT: 1. you need to understand and face just how bad your leaders are 2. you need to stop screaming about apartheid and the past in order to avoid the reality of 1.

    • Blejah

      Like we white south africans think the same or black people.Well remember arpatheid is still fresh, it is only 1994,there is still mistrust.

      • Nextlevel

        Nothing is fresh after 20 years

        • Blejah

          Because you are white,you think blacks trust white people,especially afrikaner?20 years is not much in history.

          • Lucien Pierce

            You’re right, 20 years is not much compared to the billions (trillions?) that the Universe has been around for (yes, humans are actually pretty insignificant)… but most of Africa has been independent for 60 years or more and almost all of Africa is still a complete mess with rich leaders and poverty stricken citizens. Germany was in a far worse state than post-1994 SA after WWII and look at them 60 years on; world leaders. The only way this country doesn’t become like the rest of Africa in 40 years is to oust the ANC out. Full stop.

          • Blejah

            Hey buddy,we are talking about the human psyche here not the universe.20years is not much, the perpetrators of most arpatheid crime are still around so its still fresh on the minds of blacks.60 years for some countries under opression by liberation movements. Most are freeing themselves.Lookaround positively.Gabon,Rwanda,botswana are doing well.The rest will follow once they are freed from the liberation movement

          • Fireprufe15

            In 20 years 3 whole generations have gone through the new education system without any interaction with anything about apartheid. But for some reason the old people who are stuck in the past are still running the country. Get young people with fresh minds in control.

          • Blejah

            Are you serious? Three whole generation?its takes 14 years to educate up to uni so this three generations thing going through education system is a lie.I agree government has to be inclusive and the future generation will have a bright future.

          • Lucien Pierce

            And the psyche of Japan after being nuked twice?… anyway, so of the 57 countries in Africa you can name 3 that are supposedly doing alright?

            Okay… Rwanda. We’ll forget the Rwandan Genocide because that was black on black oppression and doesn’t count right (I mean, what’s a million dead people anyway?). Rwanda has 57% of the population living below the poverty line with 1/3 of the country living in extreme poverty.

            In Gabon 1/3 of the population lives below the poverty line while the government enriches itself from the (nationalised) oil (oil contributes to 50% of the GDP). Germany/Japan had a lead on Gabon by 15 years after WWII and where are they comparatively now? Can Gabon be a Germany or Japan in 15 years? No chance.

            Of the countries you’ve listed Botswana is the only one I can agree with you on, except that it’s always been positively run by a competent government and even there the unemployment rate is 20%.

            Take your blinkers off man, this isn’t about black and white. If we don’t stop this now it will be too late. Already we don’t have stable power, water plants are starting to fall apart now as well. Our national debt has doubled. Our economy is contracting. But bra Zuma is cool cause while 20 years isn’t much, in that time he has become a billionaire yet
            his voters live in shacks and unemployment and poverty remains the same.

            And liberation movements? Please. Just another excuse in the line of excuses.

          • Blejah

            The old generation in japan if you did not know have deep resentment for usa and china.please can you show me where you are quoting your statistics. (PROVIDE link).

          • Lucien Pierce

            So you know the old generation in Japan then? Cool. Whether they harbour resentment or not is irrelevant. They’re a country that built itself up from being nothing to world leaders in just 15 years more than most of Africa has had independence from a point where most of the world wanted nothing to do with them… and they’re not blaming everything and sundry with their hands out.

            Here’s your links buddy:

            https://data.un.org/Data.aspx?d=MDG&f=seriesRowID%3A581

            http://data.worldbank.org/country (select your country to see the poverty stats)

            http://borgenproject.org/oil-inequality-and-youth-poverty-in-gabon/

            http://www.irinnews.org/report/61103/gabon-poverty-amid-plenty-as-unemployment-booms

            http://www.indexmundi.com/gabon/unemployment_rate.html

            Now quid pro quo, where are your links?

          • Blejah

            The older generation in japan deeply resent Usa and china.Where did you quote your statistics? I agree zuma must go.

          • Nextlevel

            You mean “well” relative to the rest of Africa? My what high standards you aspire to.

          • Joe Justice

            I’m with you, but if black South Africans went through all that, know how bad it is, know how mistrust negatively affected them, then why are they doing the same that was done to them? Are they then not becoming the perpetrators of exactly the same crime that was committed against them? Are they then ANY different from those who did it to them?

          • Renny Meere

            Well said Joe!

          • Blejah

            There is a pattern in most post colonial regimes,the liberation movement leaders have become the elite.There needs to be a competitive opposition that represents the majority view

          • Joe Justice

            You see Blejah, that is exactly the problem. I myself was imprisoned and tortured by police twice during the apartheid era, for cutting down “Whites only” signs in my home town.

            Even after that, I have absolutely no way of influencing black South Africans in demonstrating to them that their current government (that they keep voting for) is, in the long run, a far worse enemy than the apartheid government ever was.

            The ANC is a struggle organization, and without a struggle they have no mandate. Thus, it is absolutely 100% in the ANC’s best interest to keep people struggling and uneducated, because uneducated people will struggle, and will fall victim to propaganda. This is proven by the state of education, especially education to black students and black scholars.

            The ANC makes very sure that proper education is not available to the masses, because the studies prove that the moment you start education South Africans at any acceptable level, they stop voting ANC. (Unless of course, they benefit financially from their association with the ANC, and again, the rife, ubiquitous and unmitigated corruption in our government also proves.)

            Now you write that you don’t vote, but in the same breath you state that South Africa needs a competitive opposition, yet you as a black South African is politically inactive.

            How do you reconcile the two statements? I fully agree that this country needs a new, modern African led political party, but it is the kind of disinterest that you show in being politically active that is an abrogation of the responsibility you as a black South African has to firstly be politically active, and also educate those we cannot reach precisely because we are mistrusted.

          • Blejah

            First all i.am not black. Education for many including africans has improved.There is just no competition against anc to wean off the massses from ANC.

          • Joe Justice

            Education in South Africa, especially in black communities is grossly below even the lowest of international standards. Second, you still admittedly are not politically active, so at the very least, you have no say in any political discussions.

          • Blejah

            Being not politically active does not mean i cant voice my opinion.Its a free country.You have to recognise that their education has improved since 1994. More and more are graduating to university.

          • Leon

            But blacks trust the ANC?

            WHY?

          • Its called canon fodder, uneducated masses used and abused at will.

          • Blejah

            Most black africans identify with ANC because it was the party of their liberation and moreover there isnt much competition. Morever they mistrust any party with white majority because there is still distrust between our two communities.

          • Fireprufe15

            Yeah I don’t get this. The ANC was a big part but they are far from the only ones that fought for liberation. But since ’94 they have consistently failed at improving the country and have fail upon fail.

            I don’t understand why people would vote for a broken party because of some irrational fear for other parties.

          • chunk

            Rather the devil you know.

          • Fireprufe15

            Stupidest mentality in the world. “I know X is screwing me, but HEY lets not take a chance one someone who might or might not screw me because at least I know X is screwing me”

          • chunk

            Yip its pretty daft but that’s the mentality, its all about perception that’s all SA politics is.

          • Blejah

            Anc was the main party like zanu pf in zimbabwe thats why itsl has a large following. Zuma is just a bad leader,hope within the Anc comes a radical young leader who knows what he is doing. FROM DA Maimane seems to be a good one.

          • chunk

            I don’t see that happening for the ANC they voted for a bad leader twice once I can imagine but twice, that in itself should be a warning to the rest of South Africa the ANC NEC only cares about itself, their actions speak volumes.

          • Leon

            Don’t hold your breath.

          • Fireprufe15

            Both the ANC and Zanu PF are example of horrible parties. I mean Zanu PF is 10x worse than the ANC. They literally managed to make their currency worth less than the paper it was printed on. They managed to make a significant amount of their population decide that running is the best solution. They went from one of the biggest economies in the continent to literally the worst one.

            And I don’t think the fear is unfounded that the ANC might be taking us down a similiar path. We can only hope they don’t, but looking at their blatant disregard of the constitution, the way they protect murderers and the way they steal money, it is a very real possibility.

          • Carol

            I also think he’s great, why don’t you vote for HIM then?

          • Blejah

            I will in the next election if he competes

          • Blejah

            I will next time

          • Leon

            That is history. That ANC no longer exist and died when Madiba left office.
            The reason why black people stay behind is because they are unwilling or unable to grasp the reality that the world has moved on.
            They get comfort from and cling to outdated ideologies and or traditions and customs.
            We have seen the absurd situations where you have a black man with a Phd still believing in sangomas.
            The future for the African continent does not look promising.

          • Blejah

            Which world has moved on?Dont you have whites with phd believing in religion?Mind double standards

          • Blejah

            Which world has moved on?what is the difference between a black man with a phd who believes in sangomas and a white man with phds who believes in organised religion?The future for the continent looks brighter than ever considering the dark past.The world overally is getting better

          • Leon

            ” Which world has moved on? .. ”

            How many are there?

            ” .. what is the difference between a black man with a phd who believes in
            sangomas and a white man with phds who believes in organised religion? ”

            I have to agree with you.

            ” … The future for the continent looks brighter than ever considering the dark past.The world overally is getting better .. ”

            I respect your optimism and I wish I could feel the same way.

          • Nextlevel

            He’ll still be optimistic in another 20 years time when we’re just another irrelevant african country with dust and pothole roads. Optimistic is believing we won’t sink lower than Botswana in 20 years time.

          • Coenraad Loubser

            Hey, science can prove the effectiveness of the placebo. And anyone with a brain can find weird things that work, just because it isn’t funded, profitable, peer-reviewed published research doesnt make it invalid just yet.

          • Nextlevel

            I don’t don’t trust whites, blacks, coloureds, asians, latinos, etc and neither do others in normal functioning countries. Therefore I don’t think that trust is the issue, but rather competence and accountability

          • Coenraad Loubser

            Hell, I have trouble trusting myself some days…. But at least I know that and I can put checks and balances I place, take time to reflect, and admit when I’m wrong… Well said. Lol, trust, but verify. If you can’t measure something you don’t know anything about it.

        • Blejah

          Auchwitz is another thing though

          • Nextlevel

            LOL that in your tiny brain you’re comparing apartheid with that. Keep on voting for your ANC overlords, they’re doing a splendid job. And keep on believing whoever is teaching you such insanity.

          • Blejah

            You are the pea brain who is resorting to insults.By the way i dont vote.

      • Nonsense, past is just that, imagine Germany and Japan after WW 2 having this mentality? Move and on and shape the future.

        • Blejah

          No the Jews still have the mentality because they were the ones opressed and still bring this up in the Palestine issue.20 years is not enough.Unless society becomes integrated SA , there is no hope.

    • Spika

      Why should the whites talk to black and not the other way round? Because they’re cleverer? I take it you’re black then?

  • Angry Emoticon

    “None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see.” -Matthew Henry

  • 4man

    This man understands the problem. Like him, I believe it to be irretrievable.

  • Rajiv

    Good points yet what exactly is he or WITS doing to be part of the solution rather than pointing fingers at the private sector??

  • West

    South Africa needs to break before it can really be fixed and when it does… its going to break badly.

    • Fireprufe15

      I need to GTFO before that happens.

      • Coenraad Loubser

        I made a conscious decision to 1) stay here 2) become an entrepeneur and start a business and commit to it 3) do good. The best I’ve mustered is employment for 30-odd people, and broadband access for 15 000 or so. It’s not a lot, but it’s part of the solution. What will it take for you to do something similar, capitalising on your skills? How can I help you? What do you do? What would you like to do? If you left, where would you go? What would make things different there? The world isn’t run by what you read and see on the news, it’s run by the small communities around you, become part of them. Open your eyes. Seek and you shall find.

        • xdoomx

          And it’s not run by the people you vote for every 4 years and then sit back and moan about. The DA aren’t going to wave a magic wand and fix everything. The country is still made up of the same people. That’s the point of the article. Be the change. Forget voting and the distraction of political party bickering to the actual issues. These can be solved by any party. The enemy is separation. Anything that encourages and provokes a them and us mentality is the enemy. people need to start coming together and understanding differences in values.

          • Coenraad Loubser

            I don’t moan about anyone and I don’t care what they do. Yes, I can vote and hope, but I don’t sit and wait for them for anything, the best possible thing that can happen, in my opinion, is for government to shrink and eventually disappear. Even if they run the country into the ground, there will still be people secure in their communities and able to support those around them. Even if 1% of the population has 99% of the wealth, what good will it do them if nobody is willing to work for them and if the 99% has enough to live comfortably?

        • Fireprufe15

          Well I’m currently studying IT at Belgium Campus. In the software engineering direction. I guess I’m pretty good at programming and such.

          And IDK I probably will end up staying here, everything and everyone I know is here. The current trajectory of the economy and most public services just don’t really give me much hope, ya know? Every day the rand drops deeper and it feels like there’s more load shedding every week.

          I don’t know man. What does one do to make things better?

          • Coenraad Loubser

            Do you think South Africa is unique with our problems? I’d wager that it’s a global problem, and that whatever we can solve here will have global application. Do you realize the immense potential of… say, just getting `% of kids growing up here, interested in programming or electronics, for example?! Couple that with farming / manufacturing / logistics… My personal plan is to herd kids toward intriguing educational videos through free internet and cheap PC’s. (There’s a $9 PC getting released soon…) Or sell the parents something that’s bundled with this for their kids… maybe if they see the interest generated in their kids, they too can learn. There’s literally more than a million kids here growing up without parents! It’s easy to turn a blind eye… even if you just live 10km from a township and never get in contact with the dire situation most people find themselves in. But they’re really awesome people, for the most part, else things would’ve been in a much bigger mess. Yes, things are like this because of a lack of leadership, lack of insight, and mostly a lack of knowledge on everyone’s part. I have very little time for people who scream and shout but don’t offer any solutions… if someone puts something on the table that works, most people will test it and if it does work, they’ll take it. I don’t think the situation is dire. The Rand may tank, people may go hungry, inequality may grow… but there will always be human compassion and warmness abound, even if it doesn’t make it to the front page daily… the media is mainly a circus for the cross section of humanity who worship money and think they can get anyone to do anything with it. Yes, it is like water, and direly necessary, but beyond a certain margin, it doesn’t matter. If one person has 90% of the wealth, what’s he going to do with it, if no-one is willing to do things for him?! What’s the least you could do? TALK about it, because from talking comes visibility, and insight, and dreams… that eventually turn into reality.

          • Here at Rhodes I am working on building entrepreneurship options and plans for upgrading the standard of public schooling. If we keep waiting for government we will wait another 21 years and nothing will happen.

          • Fireprufe15

            Hey man I would love you bring solutions to the table but I don’t really get ideas like that 😀

          • Mary Douglas

            I like your approach, Mr Loubser. Keep up the good work! 🙂

        • LBS

          @ Coenraad : Brilliant, we need people like you to help us pull through, positive thoughts, DO something!

  • Reader

    Are you kidding about asking the CEOs to take a pay cut to improve education and healthcare? They’re already doing that – it’s called TAX! You say Maria earns R25m – but how much of that does she give over in tax and what is being shown for it?

    If you want to balance the economic inequality, start with eliminating corruption!!

    • glm02_may

      I disagree with you a bit….Tax favours the highest earners. My colleague earns way more than me and has lots more assets than me. I was shocked to see how little tax these rich guys pay due to being able to deduct much more expenses etc and using various tax legal loopholes etc. Point is….I think that an agreement to not take any salary increases for 3 years will make a big difference to the actual rand and cent available for strategic investment in SA. It might even lead to unions starting to act more mature

      • Coenraad Loubser

        What do you mean?! The amount of tax that my small business pays out, would have been enough to double my staff compliment and rapidly increase my growth!!! And the more you earn, the more tax you pay. If you know of loopholes, come, share!!! PROOF! Please! Tax is holding back small business from solving a lot of our problems. We’re not letting it, though, and doing what we can regardless.

        • glm02_may

          I was trying to point out that it is not just the super earners that pay a lot of tax……us more middle class guys also pay a lot of tax relative to a smaller income. This is more due to them having more maneuver room with claiming expenses. SA is in a crisis and I just think that is somehow everybody gives their bit….Executives capping income for a few years and esp…Government less corrupt…..more efficient and capable etc.

      • clint

        Actually why should high earners pay any tax at all? They don’t use government services, they use private.

  • CharlieTango

    Adam for president!

  • Heinz Da Hammer

    I think a major problem that corporations face, is the fear of going against the government. Take a close look at what the mines are doing, take a look at what most educated ones are doing, that paints a very bleak future for this country.

    • Nextlevel

      take a look at the vaal dam

  • Gladys Lutman Mance Bell

    Thank you Adam Habib for your insightful views on SA. “Come on Government and Private Enterprise…..listen to the man!!!!

  • Frikkie Frederick Botes

    Adam Habib, FW de Klerk and Max du Preez should just keep their mouths shut about it, they are part of this after we warned them for more than 15 years this is what ANC rule will do to the country.

    • Leon

      We know but in all fairness there was no choice. I know you are going to disagree but apartheid was not workable no matter which way you looked at it.

    • chunk

      Ja ne, hind sight is 20/20, maybe next time warn your uncle Hendrik.

  • Alex

    Finally someone who tells it how it is. Respect!

  • Jacobus Pienaars

    And start with Nkandla. There is no clearer symbol.

    • By govt standards, Nkandla is just the “small change”.

  • Lucien Pierce

    These tools running our country don’t care, the house is burning down around them while they’re sipping on Moet.

  • v_3

    Wow! For a ZANC “deployed cadre” to be so blunt takes some doing. He cannot be Cde BMW750i’a favourite vice-chancellor.

    Good for Habib – talking truth to power is what universities (and Chapter 9 institutions) are meant to do.

  • Rex Donald Lowe

    Rome (SAfrica) Burned, while Nero (Zuma’s ANC) fiddled (had a shower)

  • Leon

    In 1994 myself and everybody I knew and spoke to expected this to happen. Locally and abroad we could not envisage any other outcome.
    The only thing we were all wrong about was the time it took to arrive at this point.
    Personally I expected it to happen a lot sooner.

    What I cannot fathom is why are we now surprised.

  • Jaco

    And so they wake up one by one, then two by two, then ten by ten and exponentially until every zombie’s eyes are open…
    But ALAS, it is already too late. You’d probably not even have time to kiss your own ass good bye.

  • Kwane

    earth-shattering truths Prof, and ominous in the extreme for our land…each and every one of us need to stand and be counted, to introspect, to speak out, to confront and to challenge, and to be hard on ourselves…otherwise it is light outs for our country…

  • Mark

    I completely agree with this article.
    Sad thing is I have always been an optimist about SA’s future. But even I have to admit our future is unravelling. A bit like the boiling frog story, our hope in the future is being chipped away slowly but surely.

  • First honest synopsis of our country that I am sure will get some attention as he is after all a leading Public Servant. Well done! First step is for SA to realise there is an extreme crisis, next to lead by example from number one and then the rest will follow in what will take at least a generation, if not more, to rebuild SA.

  • slitza

    give that man A CASE of bells!

  • Langjan

    We? The ANC and its cronies, the media, have disempowered the “we” who were able to do something. Now all they are interested in is to grab the biggest possible share of the remaining spoils before all is lost. We need a miracle and the only thing that works miracles is prayer, so what will be revealed in the time to come is whether there remains those who still pray.

  • why do i even bother

    deregulation will increase economic inequality??? come again? … sooo if a rich fat-cat is unencumbered by idiotic and RACIST laws that increase his costs and decides to expand his company and hires 1000’s of people into well paid positions with the money he is no longer squandering on gravy train riders … that … somehow … is a bad thing?!?

    put down your socialist manifesto sir! wealth distribution is NOT the problem, economic empowerment is NOT the problem and certainly economic “inequality” is NOT the problem. The problem is opportunity inequality; we live in a world where people get jobs based on their skin colour rather than their skill, same for tenders and contracts etc etc which leads to resources being mis-allocated and mal-invested, this is an unavoidable fact of socialist / communist thinking and it is only made possible through regulation. It disappears when you deregulate, and the proper allocation of resources benefits ALL.

  • How did he get through all that without the power going off?

  • Jo

    Thanx Prof! You speak a lot of truth.
    Maybe we should put up your name for the next president, and Madonsela for vice president! Or the other way round! But you have already said on occassion, you like the academics, and not interested in politics. There is also a proverb that says if you can’t beat them, join them. So become a politician!

  • Prianca Govi

    Some of the comments on this thread are appalling. Set this straight. Not every white person who comments about South Africa and it being run into the ground is racist! Just as not every black person in the country is a sheep and votes based on race! Colour is irrelevant and is not an excuse for ignorance. Our country is still new and yes it’s OUR country, all of ours. Our government is failing all of us, each and every one of us and the generations to come, the vast majority of the people running our government ARE not qualified for their posts and just fill their pockets, this IS something that we have seen time and time again. It affects each and everyone one of you and if the people of South Africa could put aside the fight about race for 2 seconds, we could actually cohesively achieve something and a better more productive South Africa.

    • Jose

      Well said Prianca!

  • Jacques

    Well said, unfortunately the people you said it to, did not want to hear it and the people it is mend for can not understand it.

  • Hubert Jefferson

    Indeed!

    We need a Marshall Plan to get this country on the right track, not discussions or more of the same. If we continue with more the same, we will be a Zambia within 10 years.

    • The Marshall plan of the 1940s was financed by the USA, and was a disguise for the US colonisation of Europe. Who will finance one for SA?

  • Donavan ( Cape Town )

    I sit and watch all the various economist on tv and they all have the same advice to South Africans,” save as much as you can for the future”. Where did all theses morons study. Must have been at the University of Utopia!! There is nothing left to save and someone should tell these morons to stop living in their own little world(Utopia).
    How can the majority of South Africans save when the unemployment rate is ridiculously high and those who have a job, barely earn enough money to survive from day to day as everything keeps on going up. Salaries do not adjust on a daily basis as the Rand exchange rate does, or as the crude oil price fluctuates daily, or as the price hike in electricity is above inflation!!!
    These economist are as bad as the present government we have.
    I challenge any economist,gov. official, CEO and executive to live in the same conditions that the vast majority of South Africans live in day in and day out, to live like they do, eat what they eat,live in the same structure(house/shack), for one year. Not one day or one week as some of our politicians and CEO’s have done to show us that they care and now know what theses people go through on a daily basis.
    One year where they will have to endure all of the natural elements, the waiting in appalling conditions at the day clinic and state hospitals,the pathetic public transport systems that the few have to risk their lives using daily just so they can earn a meager salary to feed their families and try and educate the kids etc.

    Maybe then they will realize how important their jobs are and how important it is to have the proper qualifications/experience to do their jobs and how they can make a difference.
    So much more i can say, but prefer to stop there.
    Mr. President,Mr/s. CEO,Mr/s. Executive,Mr/s Company Owner/s, please know that you are a person and you are important, but please note that all persons are important, no matter what their status or standing is in life!!
    Think of it like this, if and when you should end up in hospital and you require a blood transfusion, you never know who sacrificed their own blood to save your life.
    But all you have to know was that it was a another human being, just like that gave their blood. All of the material things that you might posses will never be able to do that!!!

  • Sello Masemola

    What do you expect, when this country is managed like a hut .

  • David Sampson

    Professor Habib’s frankness is like a breath of fresh air in a dreary landscape of political decrepitude. No doubt, the ANC cabal and Zuma guard dogs will call him some nasty names and will try to discredit him, however, I hope that other leading academics, key business leaders and thought leaders will do likewise. Of course, if you are a business man hoping to benefit from government tenders then you can kiss those opportunities goodbye and herein lies the heart of the problem. When big business stop prostituting their morals and convictions for government gain then things may start to happen…,until then.,,it’s business as usual.

  • Time_to_Stand

    The only problem with Habib’s comments is his politically correct and gentle “future take warning”, when it is mostly at crisis point or already at 11:59 on the clock. A lot of people who can, have tried and have given up, or simply moved into a larger mentality – me being one for example. I do not think more money needs to go to education. The money needs to be used more effectively and wastage, useless union influences and government policies must be stamped out! Parents have the power, but do nothing! Simply, more money by itself will not change one single thing, guaranteed.

    I spent many years teaching – for real meaningful change, I spent many years working in the most marginalised communities in this country and making useful changes there too. I offered many officials real, meaningful and measurable solutions over a number of important fields, including education – over the last 20 years – with huge, positive, real and highly measurable rewards – and was even prepared for them to take all the credit. I spent my lifetimes assets down to the last cent!

    I brought up many disadvantaged children and gave them a better life – at great expense to myself and my family! I had no agenda, no guilt complex – it was just the right, humane thing to do.

    I could have created businesses, and in fact did for many – including some of the abovementioned children. My track record is extensive!

    BUT I HAVE CHANGED

    I’m tired of being seen as just another white face who has taken and taken without giving. One who is hated by many – including our own government – for no reason other than that I was born white! I’m tired of being blamed for everything wrong -in this country where I myself have become ignored, marginalised into a voiceless minority – but blamed for everything wrong with it – despite all the evidence to the contrary. I’m tired of standing against a Tsunami of greed, corruption, incompetence and destruction of this country and its “leaders” at every level. I’m tired of being expected to pay for everything – past, current and future – but having no say and being despised simply because of my skin colour. I’m tired of the nonsense that white people, white men and my son, for example has no value or future in this country of our birth and our fore fathers before us. I am tried of working 15 hour days, seven days a week to be the recipient of hate, prejudiced and poor services at every level – simply because I’m white. I’d rather die than go to a government hospital – and I have no private medical cover. I no longer trust the police, the law or the government of this land. I no longer want to employ people and have all the nonsense and demands of them, the unions, the government and more. I’m tired of the rampant and violent and never ending crime.

    So now, I have created a business out of absolutely nothing – in order to live. I work 15 hours a day – by myself, for myself and my family. What I cannot do by myself or with machines, I turn away from as I will not employ anyone. I’d love to, I’d be able to create a lot, but it is no longer worth it.

    And that long story, I think, is to some degree at the heart of the people who isolate themselves into communities where “who cares about Johannesburg, Durban” or any other monumental failure today! It is to some degree why many of us seem not to care, stand or do anything. Hell, every newspaper has screamed about the issues, the greed and the corruption. They have screamed about zuma and his entourage being above the law for 20 years now – what more must we do? For me, now, it will be very, very selective hand-ups and no more hand-outs. And for me, it will be based on merit alone, one person at a time.

    • Coenraad Loubser

      It is inevitable that a groundswell of humble, hard-working people such as yourself, will wash out the noise-makers like the tide. It’s much more effort to be despising, greedy, hateful and vengeful, than it is to be calm and good-natured, and good-natured people are a big majority.

      The drama-seekers ultimately drown themselves in their own drama, and you don’t need to buy into it or be part of it, and they can’t force you to be. As proof of this I give you … pick any journalist in any oppressed country.

      It’s with good reason that the Bible says “the meek shall inherit the earth”. biblehub-dot-com (/lexicon/matthew/5-5.htm) … It’s something that has happened time and time again and is part of our DNA. Yes, it’s easy to get scared… until you decide to look under the bed… and see… nothing. !

  • bookworm

    Some very interesting comments here. The problem that we still have is that those who are taking the bribes and having their dishonest and often incomplete or half-assed tenders being accepted over those tenders which are legitimate, complete and properly planned are still a huge problem, along with those who allow the continuation of appalling corruption and dishonesty and incompetence in key ministries such as health and education. The appointment of incompetent, unqualified people in key positions has done a great deal of harm, and until proper systems for vetting are in place and rigorously enforced, we will not make the progress we should be making. The rot permeates from the very top, sad to say.. Then those who are trying to do a decent and proper job are being accused of all sorts of nonsensical stuff by those whose biggest objective is to make sure that they are not found out in their incompetence, stupidity and corruption. Big business and industry can do their part to lead the country into a stronger place, but they must have the full support and genuine participation of the politicians and labour, but is the will there to turn this country around or not?

  • justice for all

    We need more courageous and true patriots like Professor Adam Habib. He says nothing but the truth. South Africa ,if it does not address,poverty,unemployment, education,health and disenchantment with bad governance and corruption will be in for a rude shock in the next 10 years time. The ANC and DA as well as Corporate South Africa has failed this country miserably. The Black Elite and the remaining white privileged care none for this country except worry about themselves .

  • Jamesonraid

    Nice thought, but very naive, if you stop the top 40 execs, and labour markets from increasing wages, it’s hardly like they are going to start investing in education and people, they will just pay larger dividends to share holders. The only way to fix these problems is elected officials must apply good governance, and force rules and ethics on business and society in general, by setting standards, and spending tax payers money responsibly, the electorate have a responsibility to vote out bad governments! Not going to happen soon!

  • Gatfol

    Well Said !!! ZUMA MSUT BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY…
    CEO’s must take a massive pay DECREASE !!!

  • tish007

    Politicians are outdated and we are more than ever aware that it’s all about lies, deceit and corruption. We can lead the way by, starting round table discussions with all the major groups, only with people who are positive to go forward and not those who live in the past. Run the country like a business. No 4xyear wait if you do something inappropriate. We need a structure with strategic well-thought through planning to be implemented within a…….timeframe.

  • GeorgiaSanchez

    The problems cannot be fixed. Study their contexts. Their magnitude is too great; they are fueled by Third World societal pathologies. South Africa is the epitome of the merging of a First World nation with the Third World. The First World nation lost. Vote with your feet.

  • GreyStar

    Allow people to have jobs based on ABILITY… Don’t put stupid people into a job based on their skin colour because then this is racism. Stupidity, racism and ignorance will cause a business to fail. Some massive businesses in SA have cost the taxpayer millions in bailouts because the top managers / CEO were useless… ABILITY is what matters.

  • A4away

    Remember to switch the lights off ………………………… oh shucks they are already!!

  • Greg Gow

    SA has four more years to turn these issues around after it will be a failed state if this turn around was not successful

  • ‘South Africa is unravelling: no one care[s]’

    ‘CEOS MOAN AND GROAN, BUT DON’T DO ANYTHING’

    Professor Habib is, in my view, right in that South Africa is in a state of failure – both in a normative sense, and relative to what was possible – and that CEOs do not give evidence that they care. But, he is also simply wrong in some assertions. I focus on only one area of disagreement here.

    He casts his net too narrowly. South Africa is a nation of moaners and groaners. The CEOs, like all other functionaries – politicians, bureaucrats, corporate workers and executives, academics, labour representatives – are merely a reflection of our society; of all of us.

    I am sure there are legion reasons for our muted and sometimes private moaning and public acquiescence, but I reckon there are two primary reason for both silence and lethargy to do anything.

    Perhaps some folk think that they will be cast out from a position of opportunity or potential opportunity – if they do anything to rock the boat. Individuals and businesses seek rent – opportunities – above anything else, so they may moan (often in private), but do nothing.

    Others have a guilt complex from their past indolence, and believe that saying or doing the right thing now will be held against them and identify them as bigots. How do apartheid beneficiaries now stand up for what is right, or against what is wrong?

    We are a nation of moaners and groaners; and do nothing. Professor Habib, it is all of us, not just the CEOs. Perhaps until life is so uncomfortable – like it is for township
    residence who burn and pillage to get attention – we’ll continue to gripe in the comfort of our offices, cars and homes – but do nothing until it is too late.

    And, we know the dictum of, too little too late.

    Nobody’s going to fix our country for us – not the politicians or business people or someone else ‘out there’ – but each citizen standing up, working together, making our voices heard, and doing the right things right. If we don’t fix it ourselves, we’ll all go down the road of failure together.

    Sing-up to http://www.kkaroo.co.za and influence your world.

  • Frank Payne

    Adam Habib has set out the situation as it is, in no-nonsense, simple to understand language, that even our government appointees can understand. His challenge to corporates is also telling. The march against corruption last week was a significant statement of support by those that partook and a huge void of silence by Corporate South Africa, who were very conspicuous by their absence. These are our economic leaders, who when given an opportunity to make a moral statement, sit in corners hiding like the cowards they are. South African big business it seems, from their lack of participation, are condoning the status quo, or if not and abhor corruption as they claim, don’t have the gumption to nail their colours to that mast.

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