{"id":48444,"date":"2013-10-28T09:40:11","date_gmt":"2013-10-28T07:40:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/businesstech.co.za\/news\/?p=48444"},"modified":"2013-10-28T09:49:10","modified_gmt":"2013-10-28T07:49:10","slug":"us-spying-kept-europe-safe-lawmakers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstech.co.za\/news\/trending\/48444\/us-spying-kept-europe-safe-lawmakers\/","title":{"rendered":"US spying kept Europe safe: lawmakers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Europeans should be grateful for US spying operations because they keep them safe, US lawmakers said Sunday, urging allies to improve their own intelligence and oversight efforts.<\/p>\n<p>House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers called &#8220;disingenuous&#8221; foreign governments&#8217; outrage over the National Security Agency&#8217;s large dragnet over communications of several dozen world leaders and ordinary citizens.<\/p>\n<p>And he blamed the news media for getting the story wrong.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think the bigger news story here would be&#8230; if the United States intelligence services weren&#8217;t trying to collect information that would protect US interests both (at) home and abroad,&#8221; the Republican told CNN.<\/p>\n<p>The NSA denied German press reports that President Barack Obama was personally informed since 2002 that US spies were tapping on top ally Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany.<\/p>\n<p>And National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said US intelligence gathering was simply &#8220;of the type gathered by all nations.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Dick Cheney, the former US vice president who wielded vast influence on intelligence matters during the George W. Bush administration&#8217;s &#8220;war on terror,&#8221; said US spying on allies was nothing new.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s something that we have been involved in a long time,&#8221; he told ABC television.<\/p>\n<p>The spying row prompted European leaders late last week to demand a new deal with Washington on intelligence gathering that would maintain an essential alliance while keeping the fight against terrorism on track.<\/p>\n<p>But Representative Peter King, who chairs the House Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence, said Obama should &#8220;stop apologizing&#8221; about the NSA&#8217;s phone-tapping scandal, claiming the programs had saved &#8220;thousands&#8221; of lives.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The president should stop apologizing and stop being defensive,&#8221; he told NBC.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The reality is the NSA has saved thousands of lives, not just in the United States but in France, Germany and throughout Europe.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>King also suggested the French had conducted similar operations themselves and should therefore tamp down their criticism.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The French is someone to talk. They carried out operations against the United States, the government and industry,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Rogers said that French citizens would celebrate US phone intercepts in their country if they realized how the practice keeps them safe.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If the French citizens knew exactly what that was about, they would be applauding and popping champagne corks. It&#8217;s a good thing. it keeps the French safe. It keeps the US safe. It keeps our European allies safe,&#8221; he added.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This whole notion that we&#8217;re going to go after each other on what is really legitimate protection of nation-state interest, I think is disingenuous.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The congressman called for improved intelligence oversight in European capitals, contrasting allies&#8217; approaches to the United States, where he stressed the government must first obtain approval from a special court to monitor communications.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They need to have a better oversight structure in Europe,&#8221; Rogers said. &#8220;I think they would be enlightened to find out what their intelligence services may or may not be doing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The Republican lawmaker said the news media was &#8220;100 percent wrong&#8221; in suggesting that the NSA monitored up to 70 million French telephone records in a single month.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re seeing three or four pieces of a 1,000-piece puzzle and wanted to come to a conclusion,&#8221; he added, insisting the records collection was a counterterrorism program that did not target French citizens.<\/p>\n<p>Rogers also suggested that US leaders failed to foresee the rise of fascism and communism in early 20th century Europe because American spies were not spying extensively on European allies&#8217; communications.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In the 1930s, we had this debate before. 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