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Rhodes Must Fall activist tells older black South Africans to “shut the f**k up”

Rhodes Must Fall activist tells older black South Africans to “shut the f**k up”

Student activist Ntokozo Qwabe, who made headlines for allegedly reducing a waitress to tears in a Cape Town restaurant, has criticized the current ‘older’ ANC leadership amid the the higher education crisis.

Several universities around the country suspended activities after Higher Education Minister Blade Nzimande on Monday announced the universities could increase fees up to a maximum of 8%.

Students are demanding free education at tertiary level.

In a post on social media site Facebook, Rhodes Scholar Ntokozo Qwabe said:

Older black people who want to silence us on the basis that they fought against apartheid need to shut the fuck up!!!

We are here because you failed us!

So please!

His post comes after  ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said that if he were the minister of higher education, he would shut universities down for six months to teach students a lesson.

Blade Nzimande then called on parents need to play a bigger role in debates over university fees.

“Where are the parents in all of this? They are leaving big decisions in the hands of 19 and 20-year-old students,” he said during an interview on Pretoria-based Impact Radio.

He said government had started talking to parents about their children. They were the ones helping their children get through university.

“Students just want to demand and some of them are not even willing to listen and engage,” Nzimande said.

Read: I would shut down universities for 6 months: Mantashe

In another post, Qwabe continued to be critical of the ANC:

You see, what the ANC government is discovering is that history always catches up with you, and exposes your sneaky methods!

This ANC government thought it had one up on us when it made it a point to capture student politics through the ANCYL, SASKO & the broader PYA in post 1994 South Afrika (along with capturing workers’ unions, and other mass based movements).

It thought it could remove our agency as black students by tieing us to student loan obligations & sucking us early into the capitalist system through impossible student debts with its National Student Financial Aid Scheme (NSFAS).

I mean, the word ‘scheme’ says it all! NSFAS is nothing but a debt chain for young black people masquerading as a liberatory framework designed to give the black child an education! NSFAS is designed to lock us within an unjust system – in the hope that it swallows us into eternal submission & passivity.

The students of South Afrika, however, no longer care! We are slowly rendering the ANC-captured student formations irrelevant and organising outside their ANC-sympathising logics! We are speaking not through our transient party political badges but through our material conditions as black people!

Nor are we concerned about our loan obligations anymore! If we are going to leave our universities with thousands of rands of debt against our names, then we might as well go down having secured a free decolonised education for black students that will come after us. We have absolutely nothing to lose anymore because our reality as black young people is that we are fucked either way!

The evolution of the student political landscape in our cowntry is beautiful to watch! It is liberating seeing what the ANC thought was a masterstroke in student capture crumble right before its eyes! It is beautiful seeing the ANC’s last meek attempts at holding onto this bygone capture fail dismally!

Students no longer need your petty PYA to organise themselves, and nor are they willing to delay the justice they deserve through its nonsensical ‘free education in our lifetime’. Students are klear that they want a free decolonised education NOW!

Qwabe also said that calls for zero percent increases were a ‘waste of tea’. He said that students must demand free education, or else they would need to come back and protest every year.

In all our campuses, we must ensure that ALL factions talking about fighting for a ‘0% fee increment’ are collapsed! If we have learnt anything from last year, it is that the discourse of ‘fee increments’ belongs not in our movement, but in the dustbins of history!

Protesting against ‘fee increments’ is not sustainable. If we protest merely for another ‘0% increment’ this year, we will have to do so again next year, and the year after. This doesn’t make sense. You see, contrary to popular belief, we are not protest cows who enjoy this thing of protesting.

The masses are klear that they are putting their bodies & futures on the line for a full revolution NOW (a free decolonised education!). Let’s not be distracted by toxic factions advocating for nonsensical half-a-loaf revolutions centred on ‘increments’ like last year!

Our energies should be directed towards a free, decolonised, black centred, Afrocentric education MANJE! That & nothing less!

Qwabe is the co-founder of Rhodes Must Fall In Oxford – “an organisation determined to decolonise the space, the curriculum, and the institutional memory at, and to fight inter-sectional oppression within, Oxford”.

He is a former law student at KwaZulu-Natal, and received the Rhodes Scholarship to further his studies at England’s Oxford University, in 2013.

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  • Leotronn

    and just where do you imagine the money will come from for free education? Answer that question in detail and then maybe people will think you know what you talking about. By the way , “Klear” is spelt clear!!! L O L

    • Tiaan Kruger

      hehe will probably also complain when he is the one that needs to pay extra tax (for the free uni ride) when he is done studying

    • BunduDame

      There’s this misinterpreted information about the nuclear deal, having corrupt officials turn out their pockets Zuma and his Nkandla. It’s true that those things would be of help to some extent (i.e fixing damaged property) however its still taxpayer money and the state does not, nor will it -in the next half century- have enough money to accommodate ALL tertiary students. I bet you they’ll want to destroy the entry requirement system next.

  • Benjamoon Frankly

    A Rhodes scholar! Says it all.

    Charge Qwabe et al with treason. Now!

  • JaybonePatrone

    This F*cktard goes to the most WESTERN university there is.. OXFORD? honest someone needs to teach this kid when to speak and when not.. which is NOT FREE. nor will it ever be.

    I hope someday soon this child gets what he deserves, a PK.

    • Gaston LaGaffe

      you must remember, that at Oxford, Buggery is a free course. and i am sure this boy is a pro.

      • JaybonePatrone

        Does look like one of “those” types..

        • Gaston LaGaffe

          10000%

    • muzukuru

      I thought Freedom of Speech and expression is one of the most fundamental law that a learned person like yourself would respect, leaves me wondering who needs lessons

      • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

        You, it would seem – Jaybone is exercising his free speech to criticise someone else, just as you are.

        • muzukuru

          Another retard, he is not criticizing his input, he is attempting to silence him

          • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

            Nope – he is, like you are, exercising freedom of speech to criticise someone else.

            You don’t have free speech if you are not allowed to criticise other’s speech.

          • muzukuru

            Are there so many retards here, i said he is not criticizing but telling him to shut up. What language you speak so i can do it nicely in your mother tongue?

          • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

            He did not call for silence of any kind. The only person who called for silence is that short man in the article who instructs black people to shut up.

            It’s quite interesting that you feel the need to throw insults at a fully non-antagonistic and non-hostile response. It say’s more about you than it does about me when you call me ‘retard’.

            Well Done!

          • maxmarktg

            Don’t bother trying to reason with someone so deranged as he is. Waste of effort. Scum, really.

      • Silver King

        Freedom of speech has its limits.

        • Gatvol

          SIlver King. We meet again 🙂

      • Gatvol

        Isn’t Mugabe Oxford educated? There’s definitely something he and this guy saw over there about the oppressor that’s made them feel some type of way towards them.

        • muzukuru

          Ignorant retard, next time google before spewing your ignorance

      • Tyron van Greunen

        if freedom of speech and expression is a fundamental law, why do you hide behind a pseudo name?

  • BunduDame

    This boy is an example of wasted intellect. He could’ve done so many other things with his Oxford education. But he decided to instead to feed into the system of entitlement. THERE IS NO MONEY for NSFAS. How in the world then would we be able, as a country, to afford free education???

    • muzukuru

      Entitlement is not new in SA considering the many white South Africa laws that were created to ensure white privilege and entitlement.

      • Mark

        Said by someone who obviously has no clue what entitlement actually means. Entitlement is spoilt whiny kids wanting everything for free while parading around in their Nikes and Raybans holding their iPhones!

        • muzukuru

          Haaaa, that reminds me of all those white man coming in ships from i dunno where-the-fuck-

          • Silver King

            Damn you’re old…..

          • Silver King

            Also he said old people should shut up 🙂

          • Graeme

            How old are you that you were witness to the slave ships

      • BunduDame

        Oh yes!!! Blame it on Apartheid!!! That is the true cause to this idiocy -white people oppressed my grandparents and my parents. Really? Do we have to fall back on that every time? No! its about time we as black people were accountable since we’ve had back to back black presidents for over 2 bloody decades.

        • muzukuru

          Yes, blame apartheid, why not?

      • Unskinnybob

        Broken record.

      • Silver King

        Like BEE?

    • Gatvol

      He’s using his Oxford education against his oppressor. What could be better?

      • BunduDame

        Oppressed??? I think this word adopted a new meaning to some South Africans. If you are referring to the ANC then abuser is more the right term. What could be better? More qualified students whom would increase the economic value of this country not those dead set on destroying the systems in place so we are at the very least noticeable to the 1st world.

  • John Blasé

    Wasted genius

  • Viper_ZA

    Hierdie meneertjie kort net een harde p-klap.

  • Gaston LaGaffe

    this lad is the poster boy for people like Steve Hofmeyer.
    people like this child give all rabid right wingers an excuse for their bigotry.

    • Lycanthrope

      That’s a two-way street. The Qwabes and Hofmeyers in this world perpetuate each other. They should all be chucked into the ocean.

      • Gaston LaGaffe

        as i was saying.

  • Bart

    You bred anarchy – you deal with it!

  • Gardos

    It’s funny how people are taking a stab at what they so eloquently describe as “wasted talent” or something akin to that. You can argue all you like against his methods but his aim to change education for others (including you and your children etc). ‘Education’ in its current form is simply a commodity. You get churned out of an institution and the value of that education is determined by how much money you can make for somebody else. That’s not an education. People are not taught how to solve problems. They’re taught how to make money, and if that process creates problems then so be it, at least money was made. There’s an inherent problem with that system which will continue to perpetuate inequality and every negative issue surrounding that. I know somebody will respond with a snide remark or something they believe to be witty or informed but I strongly suggest that, before you do that, consider educating yourself on the true value of what our current ‘education’ system produces. Tell me what you’ve changed in this world using your ‘education’, not how much money you’ve made.

    • Ubaba meet Baba

      Look at your cell phone bud. Now tell me how an “Afrocentric education” will add anything to that?

      Education is the required foundation that allows you the platform to expand your mind and only then can you change the world.
      If your end game is to make money, you won’t invent anything. Money is the by product of excellence. Concentrate on that and you won’t have to worry about money.

    • BunduDame

      If you can as “informed” as you are tell us one simple thing. Where will the study materials among other things come from to provide free education. Do you expect the educationalists to simply give it away?

      • Gardos

        They’re arguing for education to be free to the students. Government (taxpayers) and the private sector pay for it. At the end of the day those are the primary beneficiaries of graduates.

        • BunduDame

          WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Gemma Tell

          Lol, shame, it goes back to the manifesto where government promised it all for free. So why don’t they take out their anger on lootfreely house, rather than burn down what they are supposed to be fighting for?

        • BunduDame

          …had to get that out. Taxpayers what are you bloody 10????? Taxpayers are already up to their ears with tax along side the private sector whom currently fund learners with scholarships and learnerships among other things. Clearly you don’t know how the economy works so I’ll borrow a few words from you “You’re currently using the internet. Do it some justice and use it properly rather that wait for somebody to spoon feed information to you”

          • Gardos

            Mostly, they’re not arguing for additional taxation at all. Don’t worry, your precious tax money is safe. They’re simply asking for the reallocation of funds as the money for funding free education (or at least free for the bottom 60%) is indeed there. Wasteful expenditure and corruption are the primary causes that the money isn’t being allocated as such.

          • BunduDame

            TANSTAAFL PRINCIPLE. You should learn this. Government money comes from taxpayers so essentially they defraud taxpayers. Their [government] expenditures and such do have an impact on the economy however it is not within range of what a free education would cost. Reallocation of funds is not possible when they’re NO funds TO BE ALLOCATED. Having free education would cripple this country. That ‘Junk’ status were trying to avoid won’t even matter when the rand becomes a “worthless currency”.

          • RSF

            Mostly they do not understand the practical ramifications of what they’re demanding. Nothing new for students to have lofty ideologies – been there, done that.

            Wasteful and corrupt expenditure will not end simply because some students demand free education – there’s no budget allocation for Wasteful Expenditure and Corruption when the Finance Minister prepares the budget. Money needs to be reallocated from many different places, all of which will push back and justify their needs. The end result is that this has to be funded from increased taxes.

          • Klaus Muller

            apparently we have in excess of 15 million grant recipients, I think this could be reduced to say 5 million grant recipients, those savings could go to “deserving” students, they in turn can justify their demands to those who now have nothing – fair ?

          • michael wilson

            Then why are they trashing the universities again? None of your points have anything to do with them.

        • RSF

          Free meaning what? B, H, M or PhD? Free books/resources and accommodation?

          And what happens when the student fails? Do the handouts simply continue?

          What Qwabe the Little Racist demands is: “Our energies should be directed towards a free, decolonised, black centred, Afrocentric education MANJE! That & nothing less!”

          That’s not what I want for my child. I want a quality education that allows her to compete on a local and global stage. Something that allows her to develop to the best of her abilities and be successful. I struggle to grasp what “decolonised, black centred, Afrocentric education” actually provides. It’s just another racist, attention-seeking vacuous statement, but exactly what I’ve come to expect from him.

        • Silver King

          Those students will change their tune when they will have to pay for the next generation.

    • Gemma Tell

      The value of education levels delivered is based entirely on what the ruling government want it to be and what they have delivered. The problem is not with the institution, rather with the ministers and crones that are supposed to oversee it. As for Qwabe, shouting off his mouth as per usual. He’s not a serious student. He just likes being in the news.

    • Charl van der Merwe

      Fair enough, what you describe sounds legitimate enough, but what HE is protesting and what you described are very far apart

      Also the way he does it, is laced with vitriol, arrogance and indignation. He is like a child throwing a tantrum, you probably believe he had nothing to do with that waitress right ?

    • Mossel

      I agree, the current education system teaches us to make money. Not even properly to be honest. However, capitalism has done more for the world with regards to new inventions than any other system. You might not like it, but capitalism is the best we have, unless you can show me otherwise.

      With my education I’ve changed the world by designing and constructing roads for a vast array of communities, rich and poor. It might seem insigificant to you, but to the guy in Philipi who had a gravel road and now has a perfect asphalt one with drainage and sewer connections, it makes a big difference.

    • david

      He isn’t aiming to do anything except boost his own ego as he hasn’t had anything constructive to say about this issue beyond calling for decolonization and even there that is all he does, he doesn’t bring anything to the table.

      The rest of your reply is hovering on a factual issue but is distracted by the money side, we need money to survive therefore we will choose a path that offers us the chance to make money.

      The main problem is that our current schooling system is geared to suppressing the natural creativity and talent that can be found in all children and making them into obedient little robots. I know I might get blasted for saying that, however it is the truth and should be readily apparent to those engaged in post grad studies and in the business sector.

      I am currently busy with my MBA and a large part of it revolves around personnel and career development, they are trying to reignite the creativity and wonder that we possessed as children.

    • Silver King

      Wasted talent is wasted talent.

  • Ubaba meet Baba

    A degree from oxford and the chop still can’t spell.
    This child is a joke, and one that can afford to pay his way.

    If anything, the real students that can’t afford to pay should distance themselves from eff radicals like this delusional character. This agenda of “destroy everything” is exactly what’s happened to the rest of Africa, and there are no good stories emanating from there.

    Has he paid his R150k racism fine for attacking that little white waitress or are the HRC still sitting on their hands with left foot in mouth over that one?

    • Gardos

      He can spell. Try reading up as to why he would spell words like ‘Africa’ with K. You’re currently using the internet. Do it some justice and use it properly rather that wait for somebody to spoon feed information to you.

      • Ubaba meet Baba

        What about “klear”?

        Is there some revolutionary klaptrap to that too?

        • RSF

          Exactly. And what about the wonderful “cowntry”?

          • Gardos

            Since neither of you seem willing to do it yourself despite your abundance of resources, here’s an education. When Africa was colonised, place names and words which had a K in them were substituted with a C. Most European languages don’t have a ‘hard’ C sound. To spell words with a K is a protest to colonisation and a way of reasserting independence. It may not be linguistically correct in English but it’s a form of protest. As for “cowntry”, he spells it as such because that’s how many black Africans pronounce the English word. He writes it in vernacular to reassert his blackness. You’re welcome for the free education.

          • Charl van der Merwe

            He’s so desperate to assert Africa’s independence by protesting the colonial english language, but refuses to protest the colonial education and all the luxuries and infrastructure that comes with it
            .
            How convenient, and how very hypocritical.

          • muzukuru

            ha ha ha, you need help

          • Silver King

            Indeed, you are here……

          • Charl van der Merwe

            god help us all 😉

          • RSF

            Wow! Many people pronounce words differently due to their culture/upbringing/etc. Highlighting it is simply derogatory.

          • Gardos

            You’re assuming its derogatory because you assume I don’t pronounce it in the same way. You’re also assuming that these are my opinions or based off of anecdotal evidence as opposed to direct knowledge of his reasons for writing the way he does. Don’t make assumptions.

          • RSF

            Oh the irony. I assumed nothing, unlike you apparently. I find it derogatory to highlight something like that for one’s own purposes. That’s not an assumption, it’s an opinion.

            The only thing I assume about you is that you’re a supporter of Qwabe to some or other extent. Maybe that’s incorrect. There’s no way I could possibly know how you pronounce any words. Take your own advice.

          • Riaan Mostert

            At least not grasping at straws like you are. Or is that you Ntokozo?

          • Riaan Mostert

            Didn’t the Romans first name the continent Africa? What did you Afrikans (sic) call it? Or did they not even realise there were other continents? Talk about acting like petulant children. I love the last part of yoy comment. At least vegetable will remain as is! Lmao

          • Mikhael Rowe

            Well, in their defense, even Americans are unaware that there are other continents. They think America is the whole world, thus their World Series. 🙂

          • Silver King

            This is true. Met some US tarts in Cape Town who believed they were in Mexico.

          • Mikhael Rowe

            And it was free.

          • GR

            Surely you mean “colonisation” and “education”? Kome on man, at least be konsistent!

          • Mark

            Technically, the original colonisers of the Cape, the Dutch, would have spelt it Afrika. That is, after all, both the Dutch and Afrikaans way of spelling Africa. So the very trigger to the 1976 uprising, namely afrikaans, is the way he chooses to express his “decolonisation”? The irony abounds…

          • maxmarktg

            As does absurdity..

      • Dale

        Tieing.

        Firefox puts a red line under it, and that I believe means it’s misspelled.

    • muzukuru

      Its not a crime that one cant afford to uni fees. Infact those who can afford to these uni fees have their parents funds to fall on. Looking at SA history its not difficult to see which race can easily pay off these ridiculous university fees

      • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

        Have you even *been* to university? No student who gets As all round will ever pay their own way – bursaries and university returns ensures that anyone who gets an A will have their fees seen to. No repayments, no loans.

        Companies will happily jump in to fund an A student because they’ll get that student when the student graduates.

        The only students who have to pay at university are those who do not get As. The only ones burning and looting are those who can’t even pass.

        • muzukuru

          So only black students with As must go to Uni and expect free education? I rest my case

          • Silver King

            Well they hold more potential than the poo fleeing building burning group…

          • Denver Naidoo

            No, you fool, students of any race with exemplary performance should have free education. Why should government/taxpayers carry the burdens of kids who don’t deserve to be in university in the first place? your tender ‘i’m black and it hurts’ nerve is jangling – get it in check. you’re just a troll.

          • muzukuru

            Is this is another indian who is still suffering from the aftermath of oppresion?

          • Silver King

            Not only whites, but you hate Indians as well?

          • muzukuru

            A white man and his puppet, same thing

          • Silver King

            You just proved one of my earlier posts correct lol.

          • Denver Naidoo

            ‘Aftermath of oppression’ is when you blame a fact in history for your negative outlook on life. Just like blacks – Indians were disadvantaged too. But I’m proud my energy goes into my family and career, not into riling the masses in the hope it benefits me. That is a cowards view.

          • muzukuru

            Are you aware the dumb indians were the ones caught and brought to SA and the clever ones ran.
            Now lets talk about cowards, are you aware white economic advantage was built on your grandparents sweat?

          • Denver Naidoo

            That’s what makes me truly liberated, i acknowledge that, however, i refuse to let that become the bane of my existence. Instead of pleading poverty i choose to get things done for myself. So who then is the coward? are you trying to inspire your people to demand for advantage rather than achieve it?

          • muzukuru

            It boils down to what you choose to do with your life, you would rather not stand up for your race. Great do so but dont go around criticizing those who have balls to stand up for their race

          • Denver Naidoo

            “standing up for your race’ is a thinly veiled lie you use to rile the masses into anarchy. If you want to stand up for your race, why not inspire them to stand up and fight for their future via hard work and determination? since when is protesting the only way to progress as a people? you criticize the Indians on this page – Yet Indians went from slave laborers to contributing members of society, instead of ‘destruction until its ours’.Everyone has a choice, you fool.

          • muzukuru

            You are a retard, what good is determination and hard work when all my resources entitled to me are still in my oppressors hands? First i claim back whats mine then i engage hardwork and determination. You are a murkhu. This is not India, even we were to reclaim our land you will not benefit, honestly you have nothing to contribute here because you have no stake. deal with Indian issues where you have a claim fool

          • Denver Naidoo

            What makes you so entitled? you weren’t physically robbed or pillaged? you use ancient history to post rationalize your entitlement! I bet you weren’t even born in the Apartheid era. Your ‘entitled resource’ is out there getting further away from you as you rot in your apathy hoping someone will fix it magically. Freedom means free to do. So do something – don’t hope it’s given to you. That’s not freedom. It’s parasitical.

          • muzukuru

            Shame on you. An Indian retard i can withstand but moron, i cant. You are below me kid, get some education and come back for a debate

          • Nextlevelshiit

            Here’s a 5 rand handout so please fuk off now

          • Joe Justice

            Race is an idea perpetuated by racists.

          • David Van Zyl

            Are they balls or jingle bells from all the free stuff you’re *cough cough*stealing* getting?

          • maxmarktg

            You’re missing the point. What you are doing on this forum is in no way standing up for your race. You’re whining like a small child.

            Contribute, learn to do so, or commit yourself to doing so. Right now, what you are doing is disgraceful and makes me embarrassed to share the same skin colour as yours. Build, my brother. Sivukile.

          • Sean Redmond

            Well said ,sir.

          • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

            You don’t have a case to rest because you haven’t presented an argument. “I rest my case” literally means “I have completed my argument”.

            You haven’t even started an argument, much less presented one. When faced with an argument you immediately rested?

            Exactly *where* did you go to university? Enquiring minds want to know 🙂

          • muzukuru

            Enquiring retarded minds i can understand, it was a question of which if you are man enough or intelligent enough to deduce the answer, you would understand why i rested my case. But then since today there are so many retards everywhere,……dololo

          • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

            Perhaps try another response, but this time not in fractured english?

            (Your grammar is broken, so I’m assuming that you didn’t make it to university).

            You are welcome to reply with more fractured and broken language, lets see if you have high-school writing skills.

          • ProtectorOfMan

            As the saying goes, it takes a retard to spot another. You seem quite In love with that word. I laugh every time I see your name in the comments because I know a hate filled rant will soon follow with the exact same argument you have been using for the past 20 years to force your hateful agenda against your oppressors, to bad that you don’t own the skill or intelligence to build the bridge and get over it.

          • David Van Zyl

            What, jealous because you didn’t pass, retard?

      • Joe Justice

        It also isn’t a crime to not be able to afford a Lamborghini. Therefore I drive a Golf, and don’t burn down the Lamborghini factory in protest, nor do I demand one for free.

      • Silver King

        Or part time jobs, bursaries they worked their asses off for and loans.

      • david

        Easily pay off, seriously?
        It took me 4 years after leaving varsity

  • richy

    Free Education is possible ; Redirect all misaligned funds.i.e R 360.00 pension given to kids is a disgrace .Rather use that money to Educated student.EFF has a point Educated our youth instead of giving them unsustainable useless R360.00

    • Ubaba meet Baba

      You can’t deny helpless children bud. It’s not their fault they have useless parents that can’t look after them.

      • Silver King

        Or won’t….

    • BunduDame

      And you’re saying that R360.00 is enough to cover tertiary costs when its not enough to cover basic food? I don’t support it myself, however, free education is not possible, since everything is paid for using money. Also look into the so called ‘free’ primary schools and their conditions along with the standard of education they provide and tell me then, if free tertiary education should be something so strongly advocated.

  • Lizzard

    Lovely young man, truly…..

  • Charl van der Merwe

    This guy is so irrelevant, why are you even legitimizing his juvenile outbursts with an article ?

  • keithbe

    Says he who is on an Oxford scholarship. Wingnut!

  • Khalsa Singh

    We are here because you failed us!”

    No…….you little skidmarks are here because contraception failed.

    • Klaus Muller

      Failed masturbation,

    • muzukuru

      As an observer i sense you object to the emancipation of the black child after many years of white privilege. The statement “You failed us” is clear. Your comment is empty as you are also here because contraception failed.

      • Gatvol

        He’s here because in the words of comedian Russell Peters ”his ancestors were not very fast runners when the slave ships came”. Same slave ships that brought his ancestors to SA. It’s a shame that he’s here typing crap to please his white master, similar to how house slaves used to think they were better than field slaves. He needs to emancipate himself from mental slavery. shame.

        • Kobus Stander

          They caught all the stupid ones! The clever ones got away!

          • Gatvol

            Lol in all this I’m asking myself ”What the heck is the comment moderator doing?” probably sitting back with some popcorn and coke, enjoying the chaos they’ve created

        • Civilspider

          It is just so funny that the MASSES still feel threatened by the minority. All sorts of laws rules regulations to ensure the black is promoted above all. Yet you still feel totally insecure. Ironic!!!!! Your comments so far only reflect fear.

        • david

          What does an emancipated mind look like?

      • Silver King

        No, you are failing them….

    • Gatvol

      Shame. I feel sorry for you. You are seriously #$%& riding these white c#%&s

      • Civilspider

        whaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. you are so entertaining, I switched my TV off.

    • Witte Boer

      Excellent!

  • CharlieTango

    The irrelevant trying to become relevant. Shame.

  • truezimbo

    Free education to all South African students is not realistic, maybe the students can just do the math and see how this will break the back of the economy

  • david

    At his best
    “Rhodes Scholar Ntokozo Qwabe‚ who bragged about making a white waitress cry‚ wishes he had “whipped the white apartheid settler” during student protests at UCT where he was filmed lashing out at a person with a stick

    • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

      He’s a small man – the minute he makes violence an option we’ll never hear from him again.

      • david

        Very true

  • Barney1234

    As a young 22 year old Indian citizen, historically, Indians faced neither the full harshness of Apartheid oppression nor did we face the full benefit(if any) of BEE. We weren’t the worst off back then, nor are we much better off right now. However, I cannot seem to justify and fathom the incessant, unnecessary urge to forcefully establish my heritage by undermining and disrespecting the language and cultural norms of my ‘oppressors’. India too, was once colonized by the British, but once they claimed back their independence, they didn’t go around seeking to erase all history of their colonial oppression, they did not seek to remove every physical and mental reminder of the past, Cricket was brought to India by the British and as of today still stands as the country’s most popular sport, – and you don’t see them ‘cricketing must fall’ now do you? The fact of the matter is, they have a deeply rooted cultural background and heritage, as do the native South African black populace,however for some reason the need to retaliate instead of remediate is so very strong amongst the millennial nation of today, both Mandela and Gandhi would be writhing in their graves if they knew what society was degrading to. If you are black, embrace it, if you are white, embrace it, if you are any member of the LGBT community, embrace it, however, do not under any circumstances find the need to assert you ‘blackness’ upon another, do not disrespect their spoken tongue and written word by rolling your tongue when you speak and twisting your wrist when you write, this growing ‘entitlement’ mentality needs to stop, the ‘White man’ stole your land for the same reason he stole ours, their superiority of intellect and technological innovation and prowess objectively deemed it so, if you want the land back, earn it through your own intellectual prowess, ntokozo qwabe was a law graduate and yet he knows not how the law of property works in this country. He is a complete waste of time, and not even worth posting about, -and the biggest insult to come out of South Africa.

    • Brilliantly written. See everyone, this is what a normal 22 year old mind should think.

      • Mikhael Rowe

        Well, a normal 22 yo should be embracing something else, other than that I agree with you. 🙂

      • muzukuru

        Obviously he embraces whites and deem them superior, he cant see himself better than white people.

        • Barney1234

          I see myself as an equal, no better, higher or lower than the person next to me, i judge people based on the content of their character and not the Color of their skin, in certain situations, people are superior to me, for a doctor gave me solid advice, irrespective of the color of his skin, I’d be a fool or ignore it, if a judge, be him black white or colored gave his judgment on a matter of my concern, I would pay harshly to go against his word.

          • muzukuru

            Read your statement “I cannot seem to justify and fathom the incessant, unnecessary urge to forcefully establish my heritage by undermining and disrespecting the language and cultural norms of my ‘oppressors’.”

            When you have been oppressed for too long you end up thinking oppression is good for you forgetting that the very act of oppression and every tool used in that act is criminal.

          • Gatvol

            I think there’s a term for this when a kidnapped person becomes fond of their kidnapper… Yes Stockholm syndrome. He has Stockholm syndrome

          • Mike Lee

            Would that include the likes of Mmusi Maimane? Hmm? And the growing number of disillusioned ANC supporters now voting for the DA? Grow up, pal and get a life!!

          • brz

            No, he’s just being a sober human being.

          • Barney1234

            As a man whose stands 22 years old, my first steps upon this beautiful nation were just and free, as I was born post apartheid and never experienced a day of direct oppression in my life. At this very moment in time, I am a nothing, and I am a nobody.
            But when the greatest man that ever came out of this nation sat and rotted behind bars for 27 years of direct oppression, did he start thinking it was good for him? No, he has what you lack, a fully functional brain, and knew that the path of diplomacy, not destruction, would be the path to a free and fair South Africa

          • lerumo

            Do you know anglo gave the Mandela the family shares

          • muzukuru

            Here we go, hiding behind Mandela. When Mandela said enough is enough they called him a terrorist, no different from what you are doing right now.

          • Silver King

            If you can’t see the irony in your post then there is no hope for you…

          • Joe Justice

            Only the “opressable” can be ever be oppressed in the same way that only the ridiculous is susceptible to ridicule. Its a law of nature. Too many black people who never bowed under attempted oppression is factual proof of that.

          • Hennie

            You are filled with hatred and bitterness. What do you think my friend what whites must do to remove that bitterness which in turn will remove the hatred as well. Maybe we as whites can understand the burning and looting that is taking place now.

          • Cindy Baker

            How old are you?

          • Momz0r

            Oh shame! And how exactly are you being oppressed?? It is the white man that cant apply for most of the jobs in this country!!

          • GR

            Barney1234, I respectfully suggest that you no longer waste your time with this mampa… sorry, muzukuru. it is clear from his writing that he has a rather tenuous grasp of the English language so it is quite possible that he is completely misunderstanding you and replying from a position of incomprehension. Let it be, let it be…

          • Barney1234

            Point duly noted. Whereas I sought to position myself ready for an intellectual debate backed by logic and coherent reasoning, I find myself surrounded by very few intellectuals, turning my valid, debatable points into naught more than a debacle. The classic response to my influx of knowledge seems to be met with naught more than the ‘white man is the root cause of all evil fallacy’, and as such I will no longer waste my time.

          • Greg Gow

            Religion is the route of all evil

          • muzukuru

            Your denial is epic. Fortunately for me i have Indian friends with brains not your houseboy mentality

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            No, Muzukuru and, apparently, his friend Gatvol, appear to be trolls. Only way to get rid of them is not to feed them. They do not misunderstand, it’s all part of the game. Once this kind of nonsense starts, you’ll never be able to get past the insults to logical debate.

          • brz

            +1

        • Gatvol

          Mental slavery is what it is. No Mass’er, yes mass”er

          • Joe Justice

            A person who cannot be enslaved never will be enslaved. many proved that. Slavery is for those who have the mind of a slave.

          • Cindy Baker

            Well said

        • Kobus Stander

          You do the same! As soon as we called the writer brilliant, you assumed he embraces white people, cause you see that as the only way to be brilliant.

          • muzukuru

            And you screw baboons, pls dont deny it

          • Greg Gow

            Don’t bring animals into this issue they obviously have more brains than humans in this instance

          • muzukuru

            Well he screws them and possibly you find the baboons for him

          • Greg Gow

            Send through evidence it will be very interesting to understand how.

          • Betterestdayz

            Just can’t admit his own kind…

          • Cindy Baker

            Shame you have issues

          • Steven Seagull

            You would then be the product of all this screwing, by the looks of things.

        • Kate

          You Sir deserve a Bells! This is the best comment Ive read thus far!

        • brz

          I think you misunderstood his post.

        • david

          Which whites?

      • M v d Walt

        well said my friend

    • muzukuru

      What India did after Independence was what Indians wanted to do. This is South Africa, South Africans will do best what what they want with their country, after all they are not in India, is that difficult to fathom?

      • Barney1234

        Like an ignorant child, you fail to succumb to logic and reasoning. Doing what you want, and doing what is right are two very different things my friend, the rules and regulations are there to ensure proper functioning and smooth running of society as a whole, – failure to adhere to such has resulted in the current state of anarchy that is ensuing. In life, one either takes the diplomatic or destructive path, the latter approach would have resulted in umKhonto weSizwe’s biggest hero reduced to a nobody and a nullity. Thank you

        • muzukuru

          Another retard, show me the rules and regulations that guide Governments that take over a colonised country, they only exist in your retard brain

          • Gatvol

            They like to point out the stick in our eye when they have a log in theirs. These are the same people who shun you for stealing an apple yet they stole continents and humans. It takes someone without a human conscience to deal in human beings

          • Witte Boer

            Maybe read up on slavery. Start with Bunce Island in Sierra Leone and Zanzibar on the Tanzania coast. The slave traders rarely went inland. They bought the slaves at the trading posts on these islands. The slaves were brought in by black tribes that conquered them in the tribal wars.

          • Civilspider

            and yet your own race up in africa is still doing it for their own benefit. They still enslave their own people. Very few if any white still deal in slave, but yet that is all you can remember and turn a blind eye to what is still happening, but within the black community.

          • Unskinnybob

            Hello pot.

          • Silver King

            hey kettle 🙂

            Don’t mind me. Just trolling now.

        • Steady_B2k

          Hey Barney I thoroughly enjoyed your input. Please come back again soon. Excellent and well written from all your above post.

      • Christine Cameron-Dow

        If left to Qwabe, it definitely WON’T be the best. No good ever came out of wilful destruction, and the current conduct of certain student groups – who are supposed to the brightest and most promising of our youngsters – shows nothing other than a total absence of discipline, tolerance and maturity. Such as these constitute the future of South Africa? Extremely worrying.

        • muzukuru

          Oviously you do not have an idea what they are fighting for or the will to want to know. Another case of a beneficiary of white privilege who barely cant understand why these black children are crying amandla. Sad

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            Oh no, not another one. I know exactly what they need to achieve, probably better than they themselves do – or you for that matter, but it’s hardly a mark of “privilege”, white or otherwise, to disagree fundamentally with the means they are using. Rather a mark of the aforementioned maturity. Why do you refer to that anyway? What constitutes “privilege”, in your eyes? From where I’m standing, Qwabe appears to have been far more “privileged” than I was, even though I grew up at the height of apartheid. Not for me the rarefied air of university. As the daughter of a respectable factory worker, there wasn’t money for THAT! Good luck to you and Mr Qwabe, but the destruction of our centres of education, at primary, secondary and tertiary level needs to stop NOW, before the damage becomes irreversible.

          • maxmarktg

            You’ve just exposed the core of your thinking. You need to grow up and realise real life is not about crying. Get up off your lazy ass butt and go and build something.

            You feel helpless? Consider Mandela who spent 27 years imprisoned, yet died a rich man.

            Think about that for a moment. As a living, breathing human being outside the bars of prison you are free because of sacrifices made by your predecessors.

            The best thing you can do with your life is to go out and build on those victories. Crying amandla without doing something is self-defeating.

            You are active on this forum where you have a chance to do something positive. Respect what happened before you came along and embrace this opportunity!

            You want what the white man has? … then take it from him with your calibre of person – not through force, theft or destruction. Wanna know why? Because of the curse you will be bestowing on your children, should God ordain that you are given the gift of breeding.

            Now come… take this bitter, negative energy you so handsomely display on this forum and marshall it into something more positive.

          • muzukuru

            Dont tell me to work hard when the white man got rich by doing exactly the opposite, black forced labor, taking black land for mahala, and now you have the guts to tell to work for my riches, shame on you.
            I am active because i own multiples companies moron,possibly i am your employer, i can afford to go on holiday the whole year.

        • Gatvol

          You really have no clue since you live in the lap of luxury. Your ancestors looted from us so their future generations would worry for nothing. You are a beneficiary of looting and pillaging.

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            Actually, my ancestors stole sheep from other white people….

          • Tyron van Greunen

            i’d pity you but i’m busy sitting back on my lazy boy sipping on my double amarula on the rocks whilst puffing on my cuban cigar.

          • Civilspider

            and exactly what did we loot from you? please list all the item so that we can setup an fund to return the items looted from your ancestors. Please be as detailed as possible e.g. Brand, Make, Model, Serial number and very important, a photograph to prove your claim.

            Anyway whilst your are compiling the list, I will enjoy the fruits of my looting.

      • Gatvol

        Chief, these are the same people that went to America and found people living there, yet they claim to have discovered it… Need I say more?
        Maybe I should travel to Europe and discover it, I mean I would probably be the first person from my village to have traveled to Europe right?
        Wipe such nonsense from the history books, I say!

        • Civilspider

          just travel due south and you will find Europe. It is one big continent covered in white stuff. Please claim a piece of land there and make it your own and stay there. We do not need you here anymore. 🙂

      • Leo Krüger

        So burning down Universities is the best thing for South Africa?

        • muzukuru

          Did the white man not kill black students in Soweto in a bid to deny them Education and their rights? Which crime is worse?

          • Leo Krüger

            So the retaliation for apartheid is to burn down universities, so that young people who were not involved in apartheid, can’t study anymore?

            Sound logic there buddy…sound logic.

          • muzukuru

            Another retard, i was just showing you that the black students you are looking down upon are saints compared to the white thinking / privilege you are protecting

          • Gatvol

            Agreed

          • Leo Krüger

            I argue with you, and you call me names…typical logic of entitlement. If you feel entitled to burn down universities, go for it. Just don’t come crying when everyone is uneducated.

            I don’t look down on students, of any race. Nor am I protecting anyone for past wrongs.

            I’m saying that retaliating on past wrongs by denying yourself education is not the way to do it.

          • maxmarktg

            Their prevailing logic is to bring everything and everyone down to their level. It’s intrinsic. You cannot fight it. There is no rationality to it.

          • Civilspider

            saints, you are the retard! stupid numnut.

          • Dale

            Denied education? I believe it was about being educated in another language.

            Either way, it’s 40 years later. At some point we collectively need to work for our common good and drive the country forwards.

          • Civilspider

            an now you doing it to yourself. denying yourself to study by burning your institutions. what a laugh. such an intellectual comment I must say my dear fellow

          • David Van Zyl

            Not killing everyone. Shouldh’ve, wouldh’ve, didn’t. Then at least an ass wipe like you would not have been born.

          • Momz0r

            Oh please man! Those students HAD schools, built by the apartheid government, yet the students (just like now) were not happy because everything wasnt the way THEY wanted. So, just like now, they took to burning their own schools to the ground! How do you build a nation with folks like that???

    • muzukuru

      Its a shame even Indians can be this colonised. You need brainswashing, if i steal your house would that require intellectual prowess to get it back? For real you are a 22year old. For that i excuse you from this debate

      • xdoomx

        The land that is seen as ‘stolen’ is 67% commercial agricultural land. I think you will find most whites really don’t care who owns a vast empty plot of the land in the middle of voetsek miles away from the closest cinema or mall. As long as it’s farmed or in good hands everyone will be happy. But the majority of the white population in SA do not OWN that land or have any interest whatsoever in that land. They own (bought after 94) or rent houses and apartments in urban areas that might take up between 70 and 400 square metres. A much larger percentage of the population are black and in fact own MORE property than whites by far, as they should.
        The ‘whites’ that own a portion (apparently 50%) of 67% of ‘stolen’ agricultural land are farmers, and there aren’t many of them. Your battle isn’t with the entire white population of SA for ‘stealing land’, it’s with a minority that currently has ownership for areas of land the rest of the country drives through once a year, takes an instagram picture of, and drives on to their Airbnb. NOONE WANTS TO LIVE THERE. TAKE IT AND VAAI BRU.

        This might help
        “The racial classification of national land as ‘white’ and ‘black’ bears testimony to the past but fails to do justice to current economic, demographic and environmental conditions. In the early 1990s just under 60 000 white-owned farms accounted for about 70% of the total area of the country. Today there are under 40,000 farming units covering about 67% of the country (Stats SA 2009). The agricultural quality of this land varies, with only 13% classified as arable and
        over a third located in the arid Northern Cape where just 2% of the population resides. Most farmers are white but small numbers of blacks with access to capital are acquiring land through the market independently of land reform.”

    • MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

      He is a law graduate? I thought he is a former law student. I had no idea he graduated.

    • Gatvol

      I have indian business people I work with and they benefit the exact same way any black person would on BEE deals. So, this current government cares more for them than you state

    • muzukuru

      Take a listen to Bob Marley and you will realise how much has passed by whilst you were busy sniffin white a*ss.

      I dont need an oppressor to be myself. I have every right to determine the course of my life, thats how the new African child feels and thinks like, pity Indians are still sniffing some races behinds

      • Silver King

        You are your own oppressor.

        • muzukuru

          You have said it all, this indian boy is still oppressing himself long after the oppressors have left, this is epic

          • Silver King

            Good luck…..

          • Blapartheid Zulu

            Bud, everyone has been oppressed before, so as much as you would like to believe, you are not special. You don’t deserve any special treatment

      • GR

        Barney1234 did not make any excuses for whites’ behaviour in the past. He is just rather sensibly and intelligently asking that the idiots of today do not use the past as an explanation for why they are idiots. Just like in any relationship, it seems that nobody is interested in what will work best to move us forward. Everybody is fighting to make their voice heard and to win an argument. Winning the argument doesn’t mean that you are providing the best solutions. Quite often it simply means that you shouted the loudest and people just got gatvol of trying to get sense through your thick skull.

        • muzukuru

          Barney1234 is still oppressing himself long after the oppressors have left, this is epic, give him a bells

          • GR

            How dare you suggest that he imbibe a beverage that was created by the imperialist colonialist to oppress the masses? Shame on you!

          • Civilspider

            yet they are happy to drive the beamers, live the high life and enjoy the luxuries of the west. But on the other hand they despise all that is white. Such double standard.

      • Denver Naidoo

        Don’t pity Indians – unlike you they don’t pity themselves. They don’t let every hardship in their background deter them from getting where they want to. They work hard, along with other races, to use the system to their benefit. You, however, are too lazy. You’d rather complain about whats making your life so impossible here than actually applying yourself to progress.

        • Civilspider

          o so well said. I bet you he is not even old enough to have lived in the apartheid era. but yet he has the most to say about it.

      • Jo

        You are absolutely right!!

        You don’t need an oppressor to be yourself.
        You have every right to determine the course of your life.
        That’s how every South African child should feel and think like.

        Well done, now we can move on..

    • johnramsunder

      Well said my friend, I am an Indian as well and we as Indians worked very hard to send our children to school and Universities. It is a fact and not racism when I say that the blacks have a inherent culture of destruction and looting. They are University standards yet the culture of destruction has not left them. Truly I agree to close the Universities for 6 months but it would be sad to see our Indians and whites suffer because of these morons.

      • Denver Naidoo

        It’s because it is the easier road to get what they want – burn everything until our will is achieved is easier than engaging the system via hard work and determination.

        • johnramsunder

          Hi Denver,

          Thank you for your reply. We must just continue to pray for our country that is slowly crumbling.

          Bless You

          John

      • muzukuru

        another house boy, i didnt know inferiority complex till today, i mean i always hear about it but witness it, this is epic, indians need emancipation

        • Draco Lusus

          You witness it everyday, in South Africa. That inferiority complex is shown for the world to see, with every clinic burnt, every university destroyed…Take your head our your ass and work to better this country, instead of being a useless internet troll.

        • Barney1234

          Believe me my friend, Indians know who they are, they know where they’ve come from and the challenges they’ve faced , and they sure as hell know we’re they’re going. We seek to make our mark upon the world not by blaspheming the native language, architecture, or work of the great men and women by purposely, insultingly inserting unnecessary ‘K’s and tearing down statues that serve no other purpose other than a reminder of that which once was, not that which currently is, we adopt the mindset of neutrality and equality, we don’t have this ‘expectation’ mentality which you equate for an ‘inferiority complex’, we know that a man deserves only that which he works for, not that which he is ‘black and therefore deserves it’.

          • Cindy Baker

            Well said

          • muzukuru

            Well said, you fit well in India not in SA because as you can see South Africans we want oppressors tools gone, this is the voice of the majority, respect it since you are so timid you should have no problem taking my orders

          • sleepingdog

            I wouldn’t bother responding to the racist little troll. Not worth the energy. As with the above mentioned Qwabe, it’s just another entitled attention whore.

          • muzukuru

            Even morons have keyboards, amazing

          • sleepingdog

            Hence your trolling here…

    • Unskinnybob

      Please consider a career in politics.

      • 30%&proudofit

        Dont think EFF and ANC would employ her.

      • muzukuru

        so he can mislead and pacify the indian population, great idea

        • Unskinnybob

          I don’t expect you to get it.

      • Barney1234

        I’m afraid I won’t make it very far friend. Unfortunately, I’m not black enough :'(

        • Unskinnybob

          Sad but true.

    • M v d Walt

      Barney1234 thank you for your positive feedback and yes you asking a very good question

    • TiredOfTheBS

      Well said. Don’t let the troll detract you

    • Kate

      Hands off Ntokozo Qwabe! He is the most intellectual and articulate person to shake up the establishment, he will not be silenced by your petty comments. You are Jelous of his courage and bravery to challenge the system. He is not a waste of time, you are a waste of time and you just show how racist and small minded you are for writing this post!

      • david

        All he is doing is trying very hard to stay relevent, it smacks of someone with low self esteem.

      • sleepingdog

        Same old retarded response. White person not agreeing black persons opinion = white racist. You really need to find a new slant to that tired old narrative, it’s really transparent…

    • Kate

      Indians are worst racists compared to whites towards black people! I am not surprised by this comment

    • lerumo

      Wtf are you saying we should buy the land from people who inherited it from their forefathers who tokk it at gun point, you sir need to catch the first dumbo out of Africa

      • maxmarktg

        You’re sprouting hot air … you feel aggrieved? Well, then grow a sac and take it back at gunpoint. Let’s see how far that gets you. And us. And the destruction and war that follows. Talk is cheap and easy. You have no skin in the game.

    • Boetie McBoetface

      *standing ovation*
      Take a bow sir, this was amazing.

    • brz

      Wish I were as wise when I was 22.

    • Vees

      Amazing comment thread! I wait in anticipation
      I wait in anticipation the results of the nextgeneration… Bring on the popcorn!

    • Activ8

      Brilliant Barney… If we had more like you, this would be a far better country and more able to realise its full potential !! Lets stop “looking in the rear view mirror” as we drive forward, forget the excuses, and focus not on yesterday, but tomorrow !! I refuse to disclose my colour because the debate is not about colour, its about merit. And some people are meritorious and deserving of respect, others are not. Barney, despite your youth, you have my respect !

    • Cobalt Quartz

      Best comment I’ve read in my life

  • lino_lupus

    “Nor are we concerned about our loan obligations anymore! If we are going to leave our universities with thousands of rands of debt against our names, then we might as well go down having secured a free decolonised education for black students that will come after us. We have absolutely nothing to lose anymore because our reality as black young people is that we are fŭċkɛd either way!”

    An abusive thug who some “liberation university” prof helped to go to Oxford thinking he was going to better a 💩…….

    • upyourbum

      One who recons bankrupting institutions is the way to ensure future generation’s education. How moronic is that?

  • Silver King

    So if he does not attack white waitresses he tells his elders to shut up. What a fine man he is………

    • Mikhael Rowe

      Erudite, if you ask me.

      • Silver King

        Attacking white women (or any person) and telling old people to shut up is not the actions of a well educated person.

        • Mikhael Rowe

          Oh, you didn’t get the sarcasm in my comment – my apologies for not expressing myself better.

          • Silver King

            Well at least I know what the word means :-).

          • Mikhael Rowe

            LOL. Yes you do.

  • He is fighting for something he has already received. He has a scholarship, which means he is getting free education. What is he fighting for? Free-er education?

  • Chrisjan Botha

    Karma is a bitch…

  • Derf

    I want to punch this guy. Badly.

  • Mikhael Rowe

    He r a dumbass

  • Jaco Smit

    Lawyer with that many spelling mistakes…
    *Shakes head and closes tab*

  • Guy Morel

    “We are here because you failed us!”
    Nope, we are here because the ANC fed the entitlement troll and then slid into a deep hole of self-gratification.. then the voters failed time-and-again to apply logic at the polls.
    And now we are here.

  • CypherGate

    I couldn’t afford university fees so I didn’t go to university. Ive found another way to do what I love. Seems like entitlement is the toxic norm in SA. If u can’t afford it you can’t afford it. Simple as that. There is always another way to get something done.

    • Sean Redmond

      More than one way to “skin a cat”.

      • David Van Zyl

        “De-fur a feline”

  • Basil Jacobs

    Why did you accept a “Colonial” Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University.
    All you do is spit vile and create hatred.
    Please stay in the U K as we need people who contribute solutions, and not be part of the problem.

  • Leo

    In my opinion, what they don’t realise is the value of paying for your studies (whether it be via nsfas or parents etc.). If you receive things for free, you don’t put as much value to it than when you worked to save and pay for the thing yourself. The same goes for the studies. If they receive it for free, there will be no incentive for them to study hard or even pass, since they will be able to try again and again for free. When someone like their parents have to fork out the funds, there is an expectation from the parents towards their kid and thus an incentive for that student to put in the effort.

    • muzukuru

      ha ha ha, free is what made the white man superior economically. Upgrade your reasoning first

      • Leo

        I wouldn’t know since we didn’t experience this “free” you are referring to. My parents had to work very hard to make ends meet. They couldn’t afford paying for my studies so I had to make a loan and repay that money myself after finding a job. My point is if I got to study for mahala, I might not have had the incentive/motivation to perform since I don’t have anything to lose. I did have the incentive with the notion of having to pay back the money knowing that if I fail, I wouldn’t be able to get a decent job, knowing I would struggle even more to pay back and then struggle to find the funds once more to attempt to study further again.

      • maxmarktg

        And what made black men like Ramaphosa, Kunene, Motsepe, Mashaba, etc superior economically? Think, before answering. Please.

  • SouthAfricaFirst

    These students must get back to studying….or let other study that want to.

  • hatemale

    This d*ckhead is a trollmeister supreme. Why does anyone even take him seriously

    • Christine Cameron-Dow

      Yes, there are now two of them operating in tandem. Time to unsubscribe, with warnings to all who may follow.

      • hatemale

        Who/what are you referring to? Do you often just spurt headless, out-of-context comments like that?

        • Christine Cameron-Dow

          Oops, sorry, thought you were referring to the free-for-all that’s raging several posts down.

          • hatemale

            Ah, I see what you mean. Those clowns are flamebaiters too. Don’t pay them any heed.

  • Tony Flanigan

    as long as the media gives creeps like this attention our country is stuffed. Ignore the thing – all it wants is attention…

    How many thousands of “Previously Advantaged” HAD the ability to shine at a tertiary institution but DID NOT go, because finances were an issue?

    What more do these students want? They get pushed through the grades at school, get admitted to Varsity on grades that should never be considered, and then still want free tuition?

    They can all go perform immoral sexual acts with themselves…

  • Wulvz

    Give me a gun and I’ll shut him the F#$@[email protected] up

    • muzukuru

      You prefer him quite so we can listen to who?
      today its raining retards

  • upyourbum

    Qwabe just went full Mugabe.

    Never go full Mugabe Qwabe..

  • Gatvol

    An unarmed black man gunned down in the streets of America by a white cop. silence
    Human beings stolen from Africa and sold into slavery. silence
    Native americans killed in their millions and their land stolen. silence
    African land stolen. silence
    Years of apartheid. silence
    Black students protest for fee decreases. White people enraged. WOW

    • Graeme

      Max Coleman’s authoritative book analyses all deaths due to political violence from 1948 to 1994 in South Africa and Namibia.
      According to the HRC statistics, 21,000 people died in political violence in South Africa during apartheid – of whom 14,000 people died during the six-year transition process from 1990 to 1994. The book lists the number of incidents, dates, and those involved.

      This includes SA Defence Force actions, for instance the 600 deaths at Kassinga in Angola during the war in 1978.

      Of those deaths, the vast majority, 92%, have been primarily due to Africans killing Africans — such as the inter-tribal battles for territory: this book’s detailed analyses of the period June 1990 to July 1993 indicates a total of 8580 (92%) of the 9,325 violent deaths during the period June 1990 to July 1993 were caused by Africans killing Africans, or as the news media often calls it, “Black on Black” violence – hostel killings, Inkatha Freedom Party versus ANC killlings, and taxi and turf war violence.

    • david

      Fyi the majority of black slaves were sold to the white and muslim slave traders by black tribal leaders. Slavers didnt go traipsing into the bush to find them.
      The british fought to end slavery.
      Your simplistic view of history shows the need for free education

    • Betterestdayz

      Arabs traded your skin waaaaay before

  • Ace of Spades

    If they are so dumb that they think it can be given for free, then they don’t deserve it!

  • bookworm

    Barney is not “oppressing himself” he is taking a realistic look at things and moving on. He is also a young intelligent person with a lot to offer both himself and the society he is part of. So move on and have some respect for yourself and others, of whatever background!

    • muzukuru

      There is nothing intelligent about Barney. Barney is still oppressing himself long after the oppressors have left, this is epic. He needs help not accolades. Can you seriously go to a mental institution and start dishing out awards?

      • Betterestdayz

        Lilili….aiii lililil

  • muzukuru

    Seems when you speak for black kids who are the basically the suffering masses in university you invite the wrath of the privileged few. The privileged few come fighting to maintain the status quo, them enjoying education using their grand-grand parents savings, their own savings they wont even touch. Source of grand-grand parents savings, no brainer there. By keep the black child out of university the privileged child will continue to claim mastery over all. Is this what we want for South Africa?

    • Silver King

      Seems these black kids are more oppressed then their parents during Apartheid. They are even better at oppressing them self’s than any white man ever was or ever will be capable off…..

      • muzukuru

        That statement is for Barney :-0

        • Silver King

          Seems his freedom is really getting to you….

    • Denver Naidoo

      I don’t come from privilege – i struggled on bursaries and fought my way to a qualification. How then, is privilege being protected?

      • Joe Justice

        You were privileged enough to get a bursary?

        • Denver Naidoo

          if by privileged, you mean working my arse off in school – yes, I was privileged. Maybe, by that definition, you too should hope to be privileged.

          • Joe Justice

            No, you were privileged to be awarded a bursary. A white kid with who works his or her arse off every single bit as much as you simply has a MUCH smaller chance, so small that it is practically nonexistent, to get a bursary in this country today. In fact, when I was a straight A student in high school in 1991 it was already nigh on impossible for me to get any kind of bursary due to my skin color. (The only bursary I could get was to go study for a teacher. So I went and worked in the mines during university holidays instead.) You were privileged because of your skin color. Face it and own it. If your surname was not Naidoo, you would not have gotten that bursary, no matter how hard you worked, especially post 1994.

          • Denver Naidoo

            That may be true – But i still had to qualify for that advantage – It wasn’t given to me easily. If it were that easy, all Naidoos would walk around with bursaries.

          • Denver Naidoo

            By the way, I too, with all my good results couldn’t get into med school in UKZN. However black kids with Cs and Ds were strolling in ahead of me with my A aggregate. So the system hurts me too. But, I don’t sit around demanding things or moaning. I dealt with it and pursued other avenues.

          • muzukuru

            hope is not what we are asking for, unfortunately some of us have balls to demand not to hope and wait

          • Joe Justice

            Eeeye deeemaaand, not earn. Eish.

      • muzukuru

        At least you had a shot at Bursary

      • Silver King

        It is an excuse for their inability to succeed. See how they insult black students who are making it on their own by calling them white puppets or something similar.

    • Betterestdayz

      Scuses…maningi

  • Thepaxster

    I came here just for the comments 😀

    • Silver King

      I came for some troll bashing. My game is downloading an update and I need to pass the time :-).

      • Thepaxster

        Lol, was thinking of trolling too, but a couple of peeps here have already stirred the pot, so just watching it unfold…er…boil over. 🙂

      • David Van Zyl

        I’ll be trolling;). Klippity klop klippity klop.

    • Sean Redmond

      Ditto.

  • dv8ed1

    Ok so this Qwabe Laaitie wants free education for only black students? What about all us colored that had to work to pay for our education?

    • muzukuru

      ha ha ha join the fight and claim your spot at the table

      • dv8ed1

        yoh ek is al lankal klaar gestudy…

    • Joe Justice

      I agree. It is a fact that the ONLY underprivileged sector of society that continuously remain systemically oppressed are the coloured people of this country.

  • SteveD

    Could someone please see to it that this oxygen-thieving amoeba – and his broken ‘c’ key – never appears in any kind of news article, ever again?

    • Kate

      You enny him! and wish you were him!

  • Chez

    … Just 5 minutes with this Qwabe in a locked room. Me and a baseball bat. This is imbecile is exactly why stupid exists: Goodness me!

    • Joe Justice

      Why would you need a baseball bat. Just make a klap-hand in the air and he will start crying like a waitress.

      • Chez

        True —- The imbecile seems hellbent on getting a pk!

  • Sayed Taha

    barking dogs doesn’t bite

    • Silver King

      don’t*

  • Wurnman

    LOL how the cookie crumbles….

  • gabriel

    “Our energies should be directed towards a free, decolonised, black centred, Afrocentric education”
    Why? Can’t it just be reformed in some way? Why include Afrocenterism into the mix?

  • Oscar Wildebeest

    How now, brown cow?

    Sometime in 1814 Mary Shelley, Lord Byron, and John Polidori had themselves a competition: to see who could write the best horror story. Having a dream regarding Mary created Frankenstein, the winner.

    In 1910 us Afrikaners created our own Frankenstein, called apartheid. However, in 1994 that monster was slain. God bless you be, Mrs Robinson.

    In 1911 the ANC created a not-monster. But with perseverence they managed to eventually turn it into a monster named entitlement. And now that monster has turned on its creator.

    • Witte Boer

      Apartheid by the Afrikaner only happened in 1948. The 1910 thingy was a Brit idea.. think it was called the Native Act or something..

  • Thulasizwe Mkhwanazi

    Not all of us black students support fees must fall campaign. It’s funny because most of the students on strike can actually afford university fees but still uses NSFAS, i don’t even know how’s that thing work because most deserving students are sitting at home doing nothing not while the…. (you know what I mean) are the ones who are benefiting from NSFAS . YES my parents pays for me with a loan.

  • Dave Baker

    The unfair part is that he is saying “we students are f&*ed’

    But he isn’t
    He has (Oxon) after his degree. That opens plenty of doors even for d1ckheads.

    So he encourages others to give up their education when his is safe and sound

  • DumbSA

    what an AHole

  • Witte Boer

    This is what happens if you remove the cane from the school. This idiot should have had some discipline moered into him long ago…

    • Anton Schutte

      I think ossewa wiel and a bullwhip would be more appropriate

  • l0cal_user

    Ah man, I wish I knew that student loans were only a black problem 10 years ago, my wife and I wasted 5 of them paying for her degree.

  • Gerhardt van Heerden

    WHY IS THIS GUY IN THE NEWS?!?!?!? Who cares what he thinks?! He is NOTHING.

    • Barney1234

      You forget that he is ‘black’ and made a ‘white’ woman cry, – therefore he is heralded as a hero amongst the radical, afrocentric, ‘shoot the boer’ populace.

      • Kate

        You envy him! and you wish you were him!

        • Anton Schutte

          no, no envy….pity, like one has for a rabid dog.

  • Kate

    Its disgusting to read all the Anti-Black comments here who still want to see a black child grow up to be a garden boy, a maid and still live with a slave mentality just because he/she cannot afford an education. How can he afford an education if his/her dad lived in the system that was designed to destroy his capacity to provide to his family. When we have great leaders like Ntokozo who are challenging this anti-black system, they are called all sorts of names to silence them, this is all because you are brainwashed into thinking that the white man is superior, all this thinking perpetuated by the propaganda rubbish to belitte the black body! LEAVE NTOKOZO QWABE ALONE, NTOKOZO WE ARE BEHIND YOU IN THIS ANTI-BLACK SYSTEM, YOU ARE NOT ON YOUR OWN! NTOKOZO EL PRESIDENTE, NTOKOZO OUR HERO!

    • Civilspider

      be off you silly little girl. It is because of mentality like yours that our country is in trouble. He is an outright thug that deserves no mention in the media.

      We will not leave him alone. he will only wish for that, but it will never happen. We will be his shadow watching his every move and criticize his every action.

      • Kate

        Says a white man who had nothing to lose and benefits from every form of white priveledge!

        • Civilspider

          yes exactly, I live in luxury.

          We had nothing to lose? what do you think happened in 1994. The white person had everything to lose. but no, the black man is the only one that suffered. blah blah blah. Same old song different tune.

          • Kate

            You are still living through your great grandparents savings, I fail to understand your white tears!

          • Civilspider

            I fail to see your black tears. Blame your leaders for false promises and corruption. Stop blaming the whites for your misfortune. Get out of the hole and move on. I do not pitty you at all. Read Barney1234 comment below. Mooooove on. Create your own future. Don’t expect other to do it for you. Know about the past but do not let that become your future.

          • Kate

            Barney1234 is still living under the slave mentality and hes a white puppet looking to get a thums up from you. He is so colonised mentally I feel sorry for him, I have nothing to gain from his sentiments!

          • Civilspider

            You have nothing to gain with your mentality. You are a sad and angry individual indoctroniced by ANC garbage and propoganda. Which is catching up with them anyway. Having a discussion with you is as pointless as talking to a tree. Cheers

          • Kate

            I can never reason with a white South African Male, outright racists with a Nazi Mentality!

          • Civilspider

            You assume I am White, You assume I am Male, You assume I am racist. ” outright racists with a Nazi Mentality” please enlighten me how you deduced my comments above to this?
            Do you know what the definition of racism is? It is exactly what you did in your previous racist comment.

            You my dear is still a sad, ignorant, uninformed, indoctrinated racist individual with most likely very little or no life experience. Heard what apartheid was through your mother, father and grandparents, but never experienced it yourself, but you have the biggest opinion of it! I estimate you to be in your early twenties, if that. Totally immature and still a child!. As I said at the start
            BE OFF LITTLE GIRL!!! so beat it!

          • Kate

            Your racism stinks! I dont reason with people like you.

          • david

            I you sure you are not doing a masters in political science?
            Are you not taking a blinkered approach by ignoring based solely on their skin color?

          • Sean Redmond

            You are still living through your great grandparents savings. Huh?

    • Anton Schutte

      well, there you have shared your IQ with the world, as well as your minimalistic understanding of acceptable decent behavior.

      • Kate

        My IQ is higher than yours and Im black! How about that!

        • Anton Schutte

          once again, you prattle unsubstantiated views, much like a 3 year old. And offcourse you are black!

          • Kate

            Im a proud black woman! Aint nothing you can do about that!

          • Betterestdayz

            Lilililili

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            Well, you could go Trans, and become a proud black man, but the choice is yours. But seriously, why on Earth would we WANT to do anything about it? And where did you get your IQ tested? On Fb?

          • cherry blossom

            Seems like you are getting obsessed with me and following me around, and you want me to become a black man sounds like you want to become a US police, you seem to be obsessed me a black mans blood I need FBI protection from this KKK member!

    • david

      Great leader my ass

    • Betterestdayz

      Shame feeling bad about being chased south by more noble people…

    • Christine Cameron-Dow

      There were very good reasons why your parents did not have a good education. Firstly, Bantu education was a crime against the country – the WHOLE country, not just black people. You can’t under-educate the bulk of a nation’s children and expect a good outcome in the future. Secondly, they were caught up in the “liberation” struggle and prevented from going to school, even for the half loaf offered; before you ask me why the inverted commas, I refer you back to the first point, the crux of which is that there can BE no liberation without education. That applies as much today as it did then. To read through this thread only drives home the fact that today’s standards of education are little better than – guess what? – Bantu education. Like the struggle stalwarts of old, the Nelson Mandelas and the Kader Asmals, if you want to improve yourself and your qualifications, you need to go out and get it yourself; you won’t find it at school, and it is becoming painfully obvious that you won’t find it at South African universities, either. Unless of course, you’re privileged enough, like Mr Qwabe, to get yourself a something like a Rhodes scholarship and study overseas. That is a privilege denied all of us, other than the extremely fortunate few. All I see in Ntokozo Qwabe is an agitator who saw an easy way to get his 15 minutes of fame and seized it. He is clearly intelligent enough to see a clear road to staying in the public’s eye, which is why he produces these outrageous statements from time to time. He fancies himself as a politician, and why not? The South African variety are idolized by their supporters and given rock star or even aristocrat status, obscene incomes and every kind of luxury imaginable. Make them do what they’re supposed to do, that is be servants of the people with ordinary homes and incomes, and characters like Ntokozo Qwabe will go looking elsewhere for a job. Unless you’re just another political groupie, I suggest you devote yourself to the essential task of improving your own standard of education and leave Qwabe to his ambitions.

      • Kate

        Did you think before you wrote this?? For the record I studied in the US and Im getting my Masters in Engineering in Ireland next year! I have long improved my standard of Education, why should I leave Qwabe? Hes one of the youngest greatest leaders of all time and inspiring the youth of today and for many generations to come! The world is not ready for him including yourself!

        • Sean Redmond

          ‘For the record I studied in the US and Im getting my Masters in Engineering in Ireland next year!”
          Why not study in SA? To many interruptions?

        • Christine Cameron-Dow

          Did you think before you read it? All your responses and comments on this thread have been unreasoned and bordering on the hysterical. Calling people Nazis, screaming racism at every opportunity. You are not here for logical debate, and as for the education you claim to have, anyone using a nom de plume on this site can claim Mscs and MBAs and D.Eds up the wazoo and no-one can confirm or deny it. Reading your posts, I’d say you had a battle passing matric; your arguments are neither coherent nor grammatically correct. Personally, I think you’re just another troll, which, as you know, is a creature formed of stone. Rocks in the head, much?

          • Kate

            I have no time to reason with racists like you with a Nazi Mentality!

          • cherry blossom

            Now you sound like Adolf Hitlers brother! Are you two related? you behave the same way

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            Why did you change your handle to cherry blossom? Scared we’ll find out the truth about you and your “education”? I think Jade would be more appropriate for you, but the literary allusion will most definitely be way over your head.

          • cherry blossom

            I have no time for Nazis!

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            I think before you go any further, take some time out to study WW1 and its effect on Germany. Then watch a few videos of Hitler’s speeches, and the resultant wave of anti-education and destruction of literature that took place. There are indeed little Hitlers running around South Africa, stunting growth and learning, and your hero Qwabe is one of them. Go get your dictionary and look up “demagogue”. Calling moderate, caring people such as myself Nazis is a very serious insult, but your ignorance is so gobsmackingly obvious it just excites my contempt. You are an embarrassment to all intelligent women.

          • cherry blossom

            I didnt know that Nazis have feelings and can feel insulted after all the hatred they show towards black people.

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            Not being a Nazi, I can’t answer for them. You’d have to go look some up and ask them, but don’t ask me where to find them. I don’t count nazis of any color among my friends or acquaintances. And you are in any case deluding yourself if you think that I am moved by anything other than, as I said, contempt for the low level of your arguments. I put it to you that you are not a university student at all, and I doubt whether you have written your matric exam yet. You’re too childish, too fixed on infantile mudslinging, to have attained university status yet. If you were an engineering student your mind would be far more geared to logic, for such is the language of mathematics. I read no logic, or even common sense in your statements, which would not be the case if you were a student of calculus or mathematical physics. Of course, if you really are just here to troll around and stir people up, then go ahead and have fun, but then, as I suggested, change your handle to Jade – or if you prefer, Carborundum.

          • cherry blossom

            This is not Engineering, this is politics, I don’t see how the two mix. Why are you so obsessed with my education, you wish I would still be calling you Sir and washing your underwear of course you dont see someone of my colour become an Engineer, I tell you what, those days are gone, and we are bulding our future and we are more than capable of becoming Doctors, Engineers. You will die with your Nazi mentality while I graduate from my Masters to pursue a PhD.

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            I am utterly fascinated by your lack of perspicacity. You will never call me sir, and I don’t tolerate anyone calling me madam. For our information, please tell us all what the word “nazi” means. And I repeat, Qwabe is another Hitler. Why? Because he is forging a future for himself as a political leader, not on the basis of good, sensible nation building, but on the basis of the emotions he inflames with his rhetoric. I’m all for seeing the growth of young black people as engineers and doctors, but you’ll never see them achieving that in South Africa if Qwabe and his ilk have their way. Whether you like it or not, you are now a member of an international community, which, sadly for your anti-white little heart, includes Europe, America, Iceland, Russia, and all those other countries where white people can be found. You can’t be so ignorant about the history and development of those countries if you want Africa to take its place alongside them. “Decolonize” education? Utter claptrap. All-inclusive, broad-based education? That’s more like it. Fyi, my gynaecologist is a black man, a professor no less, the last time I was admitted to hospital was by a black trauma doctor, under the aegis of a black orthopaedic surgeon, my cardiologist is a “colored” man, and the anaesthesiologist who kept me alive during my bypass surgery some years back was a Muslim woman. So, not only do I pray to see an end to the destruction of what is left of our education system, I recognize that our lives and futures are in the hands of young black people who hopefully will become responsible, disciplined citizens. Judging by the conduct of our students on the campuses, and of course the potty-mouthed Mr Qwabe, I’m not optimistic. You want to prove me wrong? Quit the trolling, Carborundum, and start reading what you’re replying to. Your responses would indicate that you either don’t bother to read, or don’t understand what you’re reading. Try aspiring to the standards of those professionals “of color” who I meet every day in the workplace, and one day, ONE DAY, you might earn my respect.

          • cherry blossom

            I dont hate white people, I hate white Supremacy, I am dating a white man and he’s very open minded. I would never have dated him if he was a white South African, or immigrated to SA to join all the white South Africans who are anti-black.

  • Kate

    The Anti-black system should stop hating on this brilliant black intellect! He will not be silenced!

  • Anton Schutte

    he is learning language and vulgarities from the EFFing party’s latest parliamentary session, and apart from that, is a basic, feral creature….why is anyone surprised?

  • Kate

    1 black child shakes up the anti-black establishment. The whole world goes to war! Ntokozo, you make them twitch from their seats, you make their blood rush! You are a true Hero!

    • david

      Nope he is a true muppet.

      • Kate

        You are a NAZI of all time!

        • david

          Why?

          • David Van Zyl

            Did Jew see that coming? Her NAZI comments are a gas. Just ignore it like we did the screaming in Auchwitz.

        • Sean Redmond

          Why?

          • Christine Cameron-Dow

            I won’t hold my breath waiting for a coherent answer to that one…

  • the-TRUTH

    Frankly Speaking: Ek is tired of these “We Demand This – We Demand All” disrespectful rude youths of this generations. They must go voetsek, these bloody ungrateful brats
    #HandsOffourTaxes
    All these youths know is to demand and demand and demand – and then they still demand that they don’t pay a Graduate Tax or do not want to contribute back into the NSFAS. Sies, #UnrulyYouthsMustFall

  • david

    Why are.more students not using unisa if they cant afford fees, accomodation, transportation etc?

  • MasterZu

    I am disgusted by this young man’s behaviour and lack of respect. It’s with youth of this calibre that I have serious concerns for the future. If it were my kid, I would have “sorted him out” (disciplined). I know the ANC ‘elders’ have let the country down but respond with protests and criticism, not disrespect.

  • Betterestdayz

    Who’s that klip klopping across your bridge?

  • Andre Bloom

    This dude says he is not a racist and that some of his best friends are white… well… to be honest… there are a lot of white idiots out there

    • Sean Redmond

      Made my day. Ta.

  • Andre Bloom

    This dude is marketing himself to a specific audience… young people who did not endure the struggle. He is an entitled upstart… nothing more

  • Kosenator

    A plea to all intelligent earthlings:

    While you are battling about whether white beats black or black beats white;
    while you are fighting for supremacy based on culture;
    while you are attempting to push yourself by belittling those who do not share your view and who do not agree with you;
    while you argue for and against the destruction of property to make a meaningless point:

    farmers get murdered and war is rampant, both of them contributing to world-wide famine

    stop fighting about skin and get the murderers of mankind – the farm-murderers and the warlords, out of the way.

  • AgentMulders

    Why is this degenerate getting any media attention? He’s the next Julius Malema, a product of the media. Stop reporting on him and he will fade into obscurity soon enough

  • Eugene Groeneveld

    qwabe (with a small q, because you are rather a small little tadpole), you have nothing to give to the country. You are a miserable little man who can only try and look important by shouting things that you know nothing about. You look like a fool every time you open that trap you call a mouth, so do yourself and others a favour and follow your own advice, SHUT THE F— UP!

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